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KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:52 am

Question for Palerider and those in the know... When regular water leaves deposits in the tub, might it also leave deposits somewhere else in the machine... on the way out???

The biggest reason for deposits is evaporation. All the water evaporates leaving deposits in the tank. The minerals don't evaporate, and are left in the tank.

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Thanks for your reply... Can any moisture form and/or evaporate in other parts of the machine... or is this impossible? - - And are there any other reasons that could cause deposits being left in the machine??? Thanks!

Only possible way would be water spilled backwards into the machine and that's darn near impossible now with the way the water chambers are designed now. Takes some weird positions for the water to flow backwards into the blower.
Now the blowers back when I first started therapy on those old machines were fairly easy to get water into the blower if you jostled or turned the machine over.
If you did that though....deposits were the least of your worries. Fried electronics was the usual result.
For deposits to happen the area first has to get water on it.

Not in the device itself.

The tank is full of water, and the water might contain sediment.

The water is evaporated, and the vapour does NOT contain any sediment, leaving sediment in the tank. The vapour is blown into the hose and mask and may condense back into liquid within the tube and mask, but no longer has particles in it to leave.

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:52 am

Question for Palerider and those in the know... When regular water leaves deposits in the tub, might it also leave deposits somewhere else in the machine... on the way out???

No, the deposits are left in the tank because the water vapor evaporates, it can't carry the minerals, or bacteria, or viruses, and certainly not brain eating amoeba.

Evaporation of water is the first step in distillation, the second is condensation of that water vapor back to water... In a still, this distilled water.

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:07 pm

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:52 am

Question for Palerider and those in the know... When regular water leaves deposits in the tub, might it also leave deposits somewhere else in the machine... on the way out???

The biggest reason for deposits is evaporation. All the water evaporates leaving deposits in the tank. The minerals don't evaporate, and are left in the tank.

Thanks for your reply... Can any moisture form and/or evaporate in other parts of the machine... or is this impossible? - - And are there any other reasons that could cause deposits being left in the machine??? Thanks!

Under normal operation, no. The humidifier is the last part of the CPAP.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Not in the device itself.

The tank is full of water, and the water might contain sediment.

The water is evaporated, and the vapour does NOT contain any sediment, leaving sediment in the tank. The vapour is blown into the hose and mask and may condense back into liquid within the tube and mask, but no longer has particles in it to leave.

The water that condenses in the hose is, in effect, distilled water, even if you started with tap water.

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:32 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Not in the device itself.

The tank is full of water, and the water might contain sediment.

The water is evaporated, and the vapour does NOT contain any sediment, leaving sediment in the tank. The vapour is blown into the hose and mask and may condense back into liquid within the tube and mask, but no longer has particles in it to leave.

The water that condenses in the hose is, in effect, distilled water, even if you started with tap water.

I hope you're not suggesting double distilled isn't twice as good as single distilled.

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:18 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:32 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Not in the device itself.

The tank is full of water, and the water might contain sediment.

The water is evaporated, and the vapour does NOT contain any sediment, leaving sediment in the tank. The vapour is blown into the hose and mask and may condense back into liquid within the tube and mask, but no longer has particles in it to leave.

The water that condenses in the hose is, in effect, distilled water, even if you started with tap water.

Thanks Palerider. Do any of the chemicals in the tap water, ie, chlorine, fluiride, etc... have any impact on anyone? I realize we sometimes drink those chemicals in our water, but in this application, not that I would know anything at all about this, I'm talking about the extra effect that Zonker (not our Zonker!!!) might get using a bong....???

If any, then less than taking a shower and breathing in the steam from the hot water, and the aerosolized water droplets from the spray.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:49 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:32 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Not in the device itself.

The tank is full of water, and the water might contain sediment.

The water is evaporated, and the vapour does NOT contain any sediment, leaving sediment in the tank. The vapour is blown into the hose and mask and may condense back into liquid within the tube and mask, but no longer has particles in it to leave.

The water that condenses in the hose is, in effect, distilled water, even if you started with tap water.

I hope you're not suggesting double distilled isn't twice as good as single distilled.

"Shakes fist" we're not talking vodka here.

after reading this thread, i've decided to quit buying ANY sort of water and use dog slobber.

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 am

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:37 am

depends on how hard your water is. Mine has a ton of chlorine, and even filtered starts leaving deposits after only 1 night, so I always try to use distilled and will only use filtered as backup if I run out of distilled. otherwise I have to constantly rinse it with vinegar.

Chlorine, or more likely, chloramine, doesn't leave deposits, it evaporates. (chlorine is a gas, after all). And, vinegar would not remove it.

point is there is something hard in the water... thanks for the clarification

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:31 am

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:43 am

Also I'll back up that distilled water is in fact NOT sterile. when I use sprouts distilled water I always get this weird pink mold, so I've stopped ever using it for that reason. I use king soopers instead.

The pink stuff isn't any form of mold, it's an airborne bacteria: http://edenprairieweblogs.org/scottneal/post/1338/

I realize that. Didn't think it was worth distinguishing.

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:12 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:31 am

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:43 am

Also I'll back up that distilled water is in fact NOT sterile. when I use sprouts distilled water I always get this weird pink mold, so I've stopped ever using it for that reason. I use king soopers instead.

The pink stuff isn't any form of mold, it's an airborne bacteria: http://edenprairieweblogs.org/scottneal/post/1338/

I realize that. Didn't think it was worth distinguishing.

Might as well call it blood, or a tree, or dog slobber if it's not "worth distinguishing".

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:17 pm

Might as well call it blood, or a tree, or dog slobber if it's not "worth distinguishing".

is this another vote in favor of my new plan to use dog slobber in my humidifier?