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Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:30 pm
by djams
jnk... wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:26 pm
palerider wrote:
I never wash my hose.
Me neither. Probably not a slogan that one would want on a T-shirt, though.
I dunno, I like wearing t-shirts that get second looks. They can be great conversation starters. Or they can make concerned mothers scurry away with their rugrats.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:38 pm
by Gryphon
palerider wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:43 pm
rfmielke55 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:25 am
I clean the mask with Control III, and clean the machine with 2-3 oz of Isopropyl alcohol in the humidifier tank and run it dry. Maybe I am nuts, but it has worked for me for years. Thoughts?
Do keep in mind that alcohol vapor is
extremely flammable.
I'd be willing to bet that it would have 'worked' for you just as well all these years if you hadn't done that.
don't tell people that... some goof ball, will turn a CPAP into a flame thrower and we'll have another layer of red tape to worry with before we can buy one.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:59 pm
by chunkyfrog
Just a capful of vodka kills odors and possible future denizens of my unintentional terrarium.
I let it evaporate well before adding water.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:12 pm
by Goofproof
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:59 pm
Just a capful of vodka kills odors and possible future denizens of my unintentional terrarium.
I let it evaporate well before adding water.
Don't add water, add ice! Jim
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:33 pm
by Gryphon
I could try a little orange vodka. I bet it would make everything smell nice.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:12 am
by crazydiamond
I use wipes daily. I wash the mask and hose about once a month with hypoallergenic body soap. My humidifier tray (I have two) goes in dishwasher.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:41 am
by rionoirble
The thing is, once that bacteria from your face or mouth gets into a place where it can grow and multiply, especially a warm and moist place, and then you inhale it into your lungs repeatedly over the course of your evenings, that actually is a much bigger problem than you started with and not at all inherently safe. Some bacteria can be completely harmless in one area of your body, but when it’s artificially transported to somewhere it wouldn’t normally be, can cause big problems for you. I mean, ventilator-associated pneumonia is one of the biggest complications of ventilators, and that equipment is cleaned and changed very regularly and much more sterile than a home CPAP.
If you are otherwise healthy and have a strong immune system, yes, you are probably going to fight off most invading pathogens... but it is completely inaccurate to assume that just because something came from your own mouth that it would be totally safe if that ended up in your lungs.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:50 am
by Goofproof
rionoirble wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:41 am
The thing is, once that bacteria from your face or mouth gets into a place where it can grow and multiply, especially a warm and moist place, and then you inhale it into your lungs repeatedly over the course of your evenings, that actually is a much bigger problem than you started with and not at all inherently safe. Some bacteria can be completely harmless in one area of your body, but when it’s artificially transported to somewhere it wouldn’t normally be, can cause big problems for you. I mean, ventilator-associated pneumonia is one of the biggest complications of ventilators, and that equipment is cleaned and changed very regularly and much more sterile than a home CPAP.
If you are otherwise healthy and have a strong immune system, yes, you are probably going to fight off most invading pathogens... but it is completely inaccurate to assume that just because something came from your own mouth that it would be totally safe if that ended up in your lungs.
I have bad news for you, your thinking is flawed, your mouth and lungs are connected.
Jim
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:06 am
by chunkyfrog
Exhaled air goes out the vents--NOT back inside the hose--UPWIND.
(((shaking my head)))
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:12 am
by palerider
rionoirble wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:41 am
The thing is, once that bacteria from your face or mouth gets into a place where it can grow and multiply, especially a warm and moist place, and then you inhale it into your lungs repeatedly over the course of your evenings, that actually is a much bigger problem than you started with and not at all inherently safe. Some bacteria can be completely harmless in one area of your body, but when it’s artificially transported to somewhere it wouldn’t normally be, can cause big problems for you. I mean, ventilator-associated pneumonia is one of the biggest complications of ventilators, and that equipment is cleaned and changed very regularly and much more sterile than a home CPAP.
If you are otherwise healthy and have a strong immune system, yes, you are probably going to fight off most invading pathogens... but it is completely inaccurate to assume that just because something came from your own mouth that it would be totally safe if that ended up in your lungs.
Here's something to ponder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5611769/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3716664/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16236866
You might also notice that cpap doesn't have a tube into your trachea.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:15 pm
by Jay Aitchsee
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:20 pm
by jnk...
Nice links, PR. Thanks!
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:43 pm
by Jay Aitchsee
jnk... wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:20 pm
Nice links, PR. Thanks!
Yes, keep these handy
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:28 pm
by rionoirble
Goofproof wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:50 am
I have bad news for you, your thinking is flawed, your mouth and lungs are connected.
Jim
palerider wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:12 am
You might also notice that cpap doesn't have a tube into your trachea.
Being sarcastic and dick-ish because someone suggests that good sanitation practices with a CPAP machine is a really good idea only makes you look like, well, a dick. As I said, I intend to be vigilant about maintaining the sanitation of something blowing air into my lungs all night. I would think to most users that just seems like an obvious thing, but if you want to look up obscure studies from Malta or ones that are 15 years old to give you a reason not to maintain your equipment, knock yourselves out.
Re: Anyone bought a CPAP Cleaner?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:33 pm
by Goofproof
rionoirble wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:28 pm
Goofproof wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:50 am
I have bad news for you, your thinking is flawed, your mouth and lungs are connected.
Jim
palerider wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:12 am
You might also notice that cpap doesn't have a tube into your trachea.
Being sarcastic and dick-ish because someone suggests that good sanitation practices with a CPAP machine is a really good idea only makes you look like, well, a dick. As I said, I intend to be vigilant about maintaining the sanitation of something blowing air into my lungs all night. I would think to most users that just seems like an obvious thing, but if you want to look up obscure studies from Malta or ones that are 15 years old to give you a reason not to maintain your equipment, knock yourselves out.
A lot to be said for informed Dicks I guess. Stay uninformed! You could eat off my floor, I do! Bring your own food!
Jim