Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:51 am
I just updated my personal mask selection to the bleep! I might add that the black mannequin head is pretty nifty!
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It also shows a much more correct and comfy installation of the ports than the white head in babydino's post. That white head port attachment is all messed up.
patent lawkatestyles wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:18 amcopyright law
I think we should be discussing this with the Bleep company. There is obviously a demand for a less disposable product. The adhesive strength on the ports is not the same as the micropore tape though - it is stronger.sleptimize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:12 amIt is not a copyright issue to modify or customize a mask for your own benefit. Please, folks, you have been very nice on this forum with suggestions, mailing things, etc. I just would like a close up photo of the port and measurement of its diameter so I can decide if spending over $100 is worth it. If it makes the device cheaper to own, maybe more people will choose it and get the therapy they need.
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I'd have to try a sample as mouth tape before I could call it stronger. It's certainly more comfortable and can be removed painlessly. I'd really like to try it as mouth tape.katestyles wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:05 pmI think we should be discussing this with the Bleep company. There is obviously a demand for a less disposable product. The adhesive strength on the ports is not the same as the micropore tape though - it is stronger.sleptimize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:12 amIt is not a copyright issue to modify or customize a mask for your own benefit. Please, folks, you have been very nice on this forum with suggestions, mailing things, etc. I just would like a close up photo of the port and measurement of its diameter so I can decide if spending over $100 is worth it. If it makes the device cheaper to own, maybe more people will choose it and get the therapy they need.
What about 3M Absolute Waterproof or 3M First Aid tape? Both have strong hold and gentle removal. (Maybe too strong? I have not used them.) The latter can even be repositioned. I would choose the one that has the weakest hold which does the job. At 1" wide, I'm guessing they would be wide enough for re-use on the ports. I may just buy a box to prove it out first.katestyles wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:05 pmI think we should be discussing this with the Bleep company. There is obviously a demand for a less disposable product. The adhesive strength on the ports is not the same as the micropore tape though - it is stronger.sleptimize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:12 amIt is not a copyright issue to modify or customize a mask for your own benefit. Please, folks, you have been very nice on this forum with suggestions, mailing things, etc. I just would like a close up photo of the port and measurement of its diameter so I can decide if spending over $100 is worth it. If it makes the device cheaper to own, maybe more people will choose it and get the therapy they need.
FDA approval can take years. Modification of something with FDA approval invalidates the approval.sleptimize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:40 pmWhat about 3M Absolute Waterproof or 3M First Aid tape? Both have strong hold and gentle removal. (Maybe too strong? I have not used them.) The latter can even be repositioned. I would choose the one that has the weakest hold which does the job. At 1" wide, I'm guessing they would be wide enough for re-use on the ports. I may just buy a box to prove it out first.katestyles wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:05 pmI think we should be discussing this with the Bleep company. There is obviously a demand for a less disposable product. The adhesive strength on the ports is not the same as the micropore tape though - it is stronger.sleptimize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:12 amIt is not a copyright issue to modify or customize a mask for your own benefit. Please, folks, you have been very nice on this forum with suggestions, mailing things, etc. I just would like a close up photo of the port and measurement of its diameter so I can decide if spending over $100 is worth it. If it makes the device cheaper to own, maybe more people will choose it and get the therapy they need.
Of course, one needs to be careful and I don't recommend making changes where you don't know what you are doing. It just occurred to me that the FDA approval does not extend to modifications (I.e. use only as directed -- are we to follow that to the letter?).
As for patent law, I believe that only prevents a person from manufacturing or selling the invention without licensed permission. Once you buy a product, you can do with it what you like for your own purposes unless modified use is regulated (e.g. cars, radios, etc.) I too would rather see Bleep offer another patented version where the user applies their own tape (but maybe it would be harder for the FDA to approve it?). Let's hope this ushers in a new style of mask / port design where many cheap options are available. The wider appeal the better since it will increase both compliance rates and manufacturer revenue (driving higher volume, lower cost, more R&D, and superior options in a virtuous circle).
Obligatory "the only reason there is a 2 week recommendation on replacing nasal pillows is that the greedy DMEs can't bill their insurance any more frequently. If they could, they'd tell you to buy a new cushion every week, or every day, (however often they could bilk you and your insurance out of more money). There's no justifiable *reason* to replace nasal cushions that often.katestyles wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:11 amHowever I know many people use their cushions for longer than the recommended 2 weeks.
There's nothing to worry about, at most, having a resmed coarse filter installed like I suggested drops the vent rate about 1lpm, an insignificant amount.Miss Emerita wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:24 pmVent. I tried using a Resmed filter to diffuse the air from the vent, but it worked well only when I put it right up against the vent and taped it snugly in place, and doing this made me worry that I was interfering with adequate venting of CO2. (I’m a cautious soul.)