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Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:06 pm
by Jas_williams
slowriter wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:01 am
slowriter wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:22 am
slowriter wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:16 pm
I think the mask would basically be perfect with:
  • a more flexible hose, like the Resmed n30 (or the p10, I guess?)
Does anyone know of a third-party source (say on eBay) for a hose similar to this that would work with the Bleep?
No normal hose that could be bought mainly because of the part of the hose that attaches to the DreamWay

BUT....you can successfully take a P10 hose off the P10 frame and stick it on the DreamWay and it will work just fine.
I have done it.

To everyone....Stuart has heard the complaints about the short hose and it not being as flexible as people want.
They are actively working on getting a better hose...more flexible and longer. I don't know when it will be available to the public though.
In case anyone else is wondering, after back-and-forth with pugsy over PM, I ordered an N10 frame and pillow combo for $20 on eBay. Am almost certain it uses the same hose as the P10, and so should be perfect for what I need.
It is I cut the hose off a P10 frame for one mask and an N10 for another no difference I can detect. I have two rigs one in the uk and one in ireland I swap every week for work it saves flying every week with a setup.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:40 pm
by slowriter
Jas_williams wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:06 pm
slowriter wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am
In case anyone else is wondering, after back-and-forth with pugsy over PM, I ordered an N10 frame and pillow combo for $20 on eBay. Am almost certain it uses the same hose as the P10, and so should be perfect for what I need.
It is I cut the hose off a P10 frame for one mask and an N10 for another no difference I can detect. I have two rigs one in the uk and one in ireland I swap every week for work it saves flying every week with a setup.
Great; thanks for confirming!

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:45 am
by KungFuCow
Fetou wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:27 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:16 pm
I found just the DreamWay interface at 1800cpap.com.
https://www.1800cpap.com/bleep-dreampor ... erface-kit
$62 and free shipping it looks like.

That and the box of 32 ports at Amazon for 24.00 totals less because the starter package only has 16 ports.
Better deal if bought separately.

I don't think they will require a RX.
Thanks for this (and for the PM's)! You are correct, they do sell it without the prescription, and I even found a promo code to stack on top of it to make it cheaper.

I'll get the adhesive things from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Bleep-Dreamports ... 07R5PTJ2W/

Are the "DreamPrep" wipes still the recommended option for applying before the adhesive, or did this thread unearth better solutions? I can pick those up on Amazon as well.
Rubbing alcohol (91%) is probably "better" but much harsher on your skin. I use the DP wipes, alcohol and 3M Cavilon and am still fighting leaking issues.I got some surface prep pads from Smith and Nephew Im going to try next and see if that helps.

My issues seem to be around the sides of the end of my nose. Seems like overnight the adhesive loses integrity and allows the air to burrow a tunnel through there. I wake up usually around 5 hours after going to sleep with air blowing in my face.

Still sticking with it tho.. Im determined to make this work :)

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:53 am
by Pugsy
For people with adhesive failure issues there is the chance that the hose is putting undo stress on the adhesive with tossing and turning you might consider adding some sort of hose management system to keep the short hose out of the way and less chance of it being torqued and putting stress on the adhesive and having it come loose around the nostril.

Maybe the adhesive won't let go as easily if there isn't something pulling on it as much.

Just a thought. Homemade DIY hose management systems are easy to make out of items laying around the house or you can go fancy with a store bought system.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:42 am
by KungFuCow
Pugsy wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:53 am
For people with adhesive failure issues there is the chance that the hose is putting undo stress on the adhesive with tossing and turning you might consider adding some sort of hose management system to keep the short hose out of the way and less chance of it being torqued and putting stress on the adhesive and having it come loose around the nostril.

Maybe the adhesive won't let go as easily if there isn't something pulling on it as much.

Just a thought. Homemade DIY hose management systems are easy to make out of items laying around the house or you can go fancy with a store bought system.
Talked to Stuart about this just a bit ago and ordered a couple of things he recommended. The hose pull is my theory as well. Im hoping the pieces he recommended solve my issue once and for all.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:23 am
by slowriter
slowriter wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am
In case anyone else is wondering, after back-and-forth with pugsy over PM, I ordered an N10 frame and pillow combo for $20 on eBay. Am almost certain it uses the same hose as the P10, and so should be perfect for what I need.
Received it yesterday, and tried it last night. I'm thrilled with the result!

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Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
by Fetou
Got through my first night with it. A lot of impressive aspects and a few annoyances. The lack of leaking and headgear is incredible, the stiffness and sensitivity of the hose to any sort of weight or movement is annoying coming from the dreamwear. The adhesive is so good that it's like somebody is sucking your face into a vacuum cleaner with the slightest amount of pressure coming from the main hose.

Also, should I be concerned that my spontaneous cycle % went from the usual 95%+ to 75% in my first night with this? Going to get a larger sample size before I get too concerned with that

I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 am
by Dreaming1
Word is bleep is finding another tube. You can always take an old tube off another mask and swap tubes out. I did that with a p10 tube, but I had four old ones laying around. Destroying one to make the dreamport better was no sweat off my back. Easy diy solution.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:08 am
by slowriter
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
Got through my first night with it. A lot of impressive aspects and a few annoyances. The lack of leaking and headgear is incredible, the stiffness and sensitivity of the hose to any sort of weight or movement is annoying coming from the dreamwear. The adhesive is so good that it's like somebody is sucking your face into a vacuum cleaner with the slightest amount of pressure coming from the main hose.

Also, should I be concerned that my spontaneous cycle % went from the usual 95%+ to 75% in my first night with this? Going to get a larger sample size before I get too concerned with that

I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.
See my post just above you on a hose mod.

You don't want to mix in that question about vauto settings here; needs a thread dedicated to your therapy.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:17 am
by Pugsy
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.

This issue is being addressed as we speak. Don't know the timeline though.

In the meantime there is a work around that can be done if someone wants to take a longer more flexible short hose/tube off a different mask and use it.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:48 am
by KatieW
I have read this whole thread, and have ordered the DreamPort from cpap.com. Expected delivery is Monday, Dec 9.

Thanks everyone, I am looking forward to trying it out. I feel ready, with all the great tips and work-arounds that have been posted.

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm
by Fetou
Pugsy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:17 am
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.

This issue is being addressed as we speak. Don't know the timeline though.

In the meantime there is a work around that can be done if someone wants to take a longer more flexible short hose/tube off a different mask and use it.
Sorry if I'm being dense, but can you confirm if I am understanding this correctly?

The hose tube style that connects to the "face side" of the Bleep is not available for purchase, but the ResMed N10/P10 uses the same size tube to connect to the "face side" of that mask? And I can rip out or cut away the hose from the N10/P10 frame, and then just lodge it into the Bleep "face side" and it will seal? And the other end of the hose for both masks is the standardized tube connector that is shared by most CPAP machines?

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:02 pm
by slowriter
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:17 am
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.

This issue is being addressed as we speak. Don't know the timeline though.

In the meantime there is a work around that can be done if someone wants to take a longer more flexible short hose/tube off a different mask and use it.
Sorry if I'm being dense, but can you confirm if I am understanding this correctly?

The hose tube style that connects to the "face side" of the Bleep is not available for purchase, but the ResMed N10/P10 uses the same size tube to connect to the "face side" of that mask? And I can rip out or cut away the hose from the N10/P10 frame, and then just lodge it into the Bleep "face side" and it will seal? And the other end of the hose for both masks is the standardized tube connector that is shared by most CPAP machines?
Exactly!

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:52 pm
by Pugsy
Stuart asked me to post this new youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-pRVlAo6Ic
He talks about application steps as well as a hose management system he has found helps him.
Looks like about 10 minutes of video

Re: Bleep/DreamPort nasal mask review thread

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:27 pm
by Fetou
slowriter wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:02 pm
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:17 am
Fetou wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
I feel like this product would be vastly improved with a more flexible/less rigid hose.

This issue is being addressed as we speak. Don't know the timeline though.

In the meantime there is a work around that can be done if someone wants to take a longer more flexible short hose/tube off a different mask and use it.
Sorry if I'm being dense, but can you confirm if I am understanding this correctly?

The hose tube style that connects to the "face side" of the Bleep is not available for purchase, but the ResMed N10/P10 uses the same size tube to connect to the "face side" of that mask? And I can rip out or cut away the hose from the N10/P10 frame, and then just lodge it into the Bleep "face side" and it will seal? And the other end of the hose for both masks is the standardized tube connector that is shared by most CPAP machines?
Exactly!
Thank you. I just did this with an old P10 I had lying around, and it seems to have been successful. I don't really know yet whether or not I will have any leaking issues around the new hose connection, as it is difficult to tell with the vent holes right there. I don't want to waste a set of DreamPorts to test it, so I'll have to see tonight. The hose of the P10 does seem extremely flexible and stretchy, so I have high hopes.