CPAPtalk.com

Resmed should make it so you can easily pull the simcard. I would pull it if I could easily get at it. I don't like the idea of it connecting to cell towers at all. I get why they put it in there, but I have no need for it myself since I paid cash for the machine so there's no compliance b.s. to deal with. If the machine is sending a signal it's possible to be hacked.

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:08 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:09 pm

Having said that, I have no problem with my anonymized data going to ResMed. I like to think that they can use it to improve their algorithms and create better therapy in the future.

That's what they've said they do with the data.

'CPAP units, heart monitors, blood glucose meters and lifestyle apps generate information that can be used in ways patients don’t necessarily expect. It can be sold for advertising or even shared with insurers, who may use it to deny reimbursement.Insurers and medical device makers say such data can be used to vastly improve health care.
But the data that’s generated can also be used in ways that patients don’t necessarily expect. It can be packaged and sold for advertising. It can anonymized and used by customer support and information technology companies. Or it can be shared with health insurers, who may use it to deny reimbursement. Privacy experts warn that data gathered by insurers could also be used to rate individuals’ health care costs and potentially raise their premiums.
Patients typically have to give consent for their data to be used — so-called “donated data.” But some patients said they weren’t aware that their information was being gathered and shared.'
https://www.propublica.org/article/your ... wRXJKkRX2w

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:40 am

OK to just ignore the issue.
Airplane mode is a PITA.
Nobody is paid to look at it, so no reason to look.
Just wasted microwaves . . .

Dystopia Now: Insurance Company Secretly Spying On Sleep Apnea Patients
'Insurance companies say they're simply monitoring usage and denying coverage to avoid paying for CPAP machines that aren't being used (which does happen, since adjusting to sleeping with a mask and tubes is often a challenge). But as the story makes clear, a lot of the system is structured (surely entirely coincidentally!) to ensure that health care patients are paying out far, far more money than the $500 hardware actually costs. Usually courtesy of deductible structures and mandated rental requirements that can making actually having insurance more expensive than going without."
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20181 ... ents.shtml

This is most likely why you can't sleep with your machine...You are worried about all this conspiracy crap.

LSAT wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm

This is most likely why you can't sleep with your machine...You are worried about all this conspiracy crap.

LSAT wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm

This is most likely why you can't sleep with your machine...You are worried about all this conspiracy crap.

Concerns about the data mining have been addressed on this board since 2012
viewtopic/t83731/Has-everyone-gone-insa ... Cards.html

LSAT wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm

This is most likely why you can't sleep with your machine...You are worried about all this conspiracy crap.

NPR must be a conspiracy site if it publishes articles addressing the data mining gleaned from CPAP machines

Sleep aid or surveillance device?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ea-devices

. . . Or one could place a Mylar tent over the machine.
--or better yet, a pyramid!

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:24 pm

. . . Or one could place a Mylar tent over the machine.
--or better yet, a pyramid!

Tin foil works better.

Yeah, probably.

peelunkins wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:13 pm

LSAT wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm

This is most likely why you can't sleep with your machine...You are worried about all this conspiracy crap.

NPR must be a conspiracy site if it publishes articles addressing the data mining gleaned from CPAP machines

Sleep aid or surveillance device?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ea-devices

Especially if it has any parts made in China

I think the sleep apnea machine must have a microphone in it to detect snores. So by changing the firmware, some entity might listen to every thing around your bed.

I could not find tin foil to make a hat. I used two layers of aluminum foil.

purple22 wrote:I think the sleep apnea machine must have a microphone in it to detect snores. So by changing the firmware, some entity might listen to every thing around your bed.

I could not find tin foil to make a hat. I used two layers of aluminum foil.

I think you are a spy in the pocket of Big Aluminum.

Yeah well is it just a coincidence that I had an app on this device that turned out to be owned by Baidu which is in turn owned by the Chinese government and which left files behind even after I deleted the app and after making that remark about spy parts being made in China (as with their Huawei phones) the Baidu spider begins crawling this site. Do we really want communist China spying on us, gathering all our data?

nobody wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:25 pm

Yeah well is it just a coincidence that I had an app on this device that turned out to be owned by Baidu which is in turn owned by the Chinese government and which left files behind even after I deleted the app and after making that remark about spy parts being made in China (as with their Huawei phones) the Baidu spider begins crawling this site. Do we really want communist China spying on us, gathering all our data?

Psychotic, much?