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Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:45 pm
by palerider
Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:38 pm
palerider wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:39 pm
On a vauto, PS doesn't affect the minimum pressure (epap), so you can change it independently.
OK,

So setting my my VAuto to EPAP 8.2, PS 3 was to initially create an experience similar my APAP (11.2 EPR 3) Which effectively gave me a pressure on exhale of 8.2.

On the VAuto we just set the EPAP to be the effective pressure we want on exhale.

Basically, we establish a minimum expiration pressure that manages our events and keep it at that, increasing PS, will never drop below that.
Correct...
It's the EPAP that holds your airway open, if that's too low, then your airway closes, and you can't initiate a breath, so the machine will never switch to the IPAP pressure... so IPAP (and thus) PS don't have anything at all to do with preventing obstructive apnea... (unless, like me, you see little attempts at breathing before an apnea which was why I set the trigger to very high, thinking "well, if I'm trying to take a breath, but it's so choked off by my throat closing, maybe if I set trigger to very high, then the machine might be able to help me through it... and it seemed to help. )

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:18 pm
by zonker
Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:53 am


Like you, I'm hoping that the BiLevel helps stop the wake-ups. Fortunately, I don't have other non-CPAP related issues contributing to my wake-ups.

i'm looking forward to seeing how this works for you. by applying some of the rules of sleep hygiene, i've greatly reduced the wake ups. they haven't gone completely, though.

good luck with the whole bilevel experience.

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:31 am
by babydinosnoreless
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?
I bumped it up slowly to try to reduce events. I made it all the way to 10.6 you helped me back when I was messing with it. :) now I am always under one and had an entire week a while back with 0.0.

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:31 am
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?
I bumped it up slowly to try to reduce events. I made it all the way to 10.6 you helped me back when I was messing with it. :) now I am always under one and had an entire week a while back with 0.0.
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:05 am
by babydinosnoreless
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:31 am
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?
I bumped it up slowly to try to reduce events. I made it all the way to 10.6 you helped me back when I was messing with it. :) now I am always under one and had an entire week a while back with 0.0.
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
Oh no, its working. I am not about to mess with success.
:lol: :lol:

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:16 am
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:05 am
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:31 am
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?
I bumped it up slowly to try to reduce events. I made it all the way to 10.6 you helped me back when I was messing with it. :) now I am always under one and had an entire week a while back with 0.0.
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
Oh no, its working. I am not about to mess with success.
:lol: :lol:
Good to hear,

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 pm
by zonker
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:31 am
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:05 pm
Wow my aircurve does a whole lot of things I didn't even know about. :lol: :lol: I bumped my min pressure and tried ps3 (hated it) but other than that it is all the settings it came with. Maybe I should be more adventurous :wink:
Why did you change the min pressure?
I bumped it up slowly to try to reduce events. I made it all the way to 10.6 you helped me back when I was messing with it. :) now I am always under one and had an entire week a while back with 0.0.
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
:shock: palerider apologizing?!?!? :shock:

i should save this for the next time a newbie attacks plaerider.
:lol:

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:11 pm
by palerider
zonker wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
:shock: palerider apologizing?!?!? :shock:

i should save this for the next time a newbie attacks plaerider.
:lol:
I'm sorry, did I do something wrong again?

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:47 pm
by babydinosnoreless
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:11 pm
zonker wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
:shock: palerider apologizing?!?!? :shock:

i should save this for the next time a newbie attacks plaerider.
:lol:
I'm sorry, did I do something wrong again?
Yes, you just caused me to choke on my dr pepper cause I was laughing so hard. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:59 pm
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:47 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:11 pm
zonker wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am
Oh, right, I thought you meant you'd made a recent change to experiment... Like last night. My bad, please forgive.
:shock: palerider apologizing?!?!? :shock:

i should save this for the next time a newbie attacks plaerider.
:lol:
I'm sorry, did I do something wrong again?
Yes, you just caused me to choke on my dr pepper cause I was laughing so hard. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That would have been very bad of me indeed, I'm glad you recovered. :D

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:02 pm
by zonker
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:59 pm

I'm sorry, did I do something wrong again?
Yes, you just caused me to choke on my dr pepper cause I was laughing so hard. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That would have been very bad of me indeed, I'm glad you recovered. :D
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all right! WHO are you and what have you done with palerider?

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:24 pm
by palerider
zonker wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:02 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:59 pm
babydinosnoreless wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:47 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:59 pm

I'm sorry, did I do something wrong again?
Yes, you just caused me to choke on my dr pepper cause I was laughing so hard. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That would have been very bad of me indeed, I'm glad you recovered. :D
all right! WHO are you and what have you done with palerider?
I have NO idea what you're talking about, but whatever you do, don't check that freshly turned patch of dirt in the back yard, I'm putting in a vegetable garden.

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:59 pm
by zonker
palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:24 pm
zonker wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:02 pm

all right! WHO are you and what have you done with palerider?
I have NO idea what you're talking about, but whatever you do, don't check that freshly turned patch of dirt in the back yard, I'm putting in a vegetable garden.
<gulp!>

Re: Dog Slobber - APAP to VAuto

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:01 pm
by babydinosnoreless
Waiting for a dog slobber picture to go with this conversation. It will be epic !