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not really feeling too bad this morning. slightly fuzzy, but felt better the last two days. will leave this alone and see how it goes.

snow here last night.

flagstaff is weird.

zonker wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:02 am

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What strikes me about this batch is the "sameness" of the pressure ranges. Like clockwork. You start the session, pressure works it's way up to 10 or above, then fluctuates between 10 and 12 the remainder of the session. The max, 95% and median pressures in the left pane hardly vary at all night to night.

Whether you're having a "lot" of events, or just a few, pressure isn't going above 12.

djams wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:29 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:02 am

more graphs-

What strikes me about this batch is the "sameness" of the pressure ranges. Like clockwork. You start the session, pressure works it's way up to 10 or above, then fluctuates between 10 and 12 the remainder of the session. The max, 95% and median pressures in the left pane hardly vary at all night to night.

Whether you're having a "lot" of events, or just a few, pressure isn't going above 12.

funny thing is, i was just noticing that myself. this morning, i was looking back even earlier than what i've posted and that always seems to be the case. on some earlier charts, i did reach a high of 13.

but i have no idea what it may or may not mean.

in the mean time, i'm still feeling reasonably okay in the mornings. that is, just slightly fuzzy with maybe a trace of a headache. both disappear fairly quickly.

djams wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:29 pm

Whether you're having a "lot" of events, or just a few, pressure isn't going above 12.

The 'for her' doesn't raise pressure above 12 for apneas, even if it needs to go higher to prevent them.

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:15 pm

The 'for her' doesn't raise pressure above 12 for apneas, even if it needs to go higher to prevent them.

It does for me but I think that it is because there is other stuff going on besides a couple of plain OAs without FLs, snores or whatever.
It will go higher than 12...I see it all the time.

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:28 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:15 pm

The 'for her' doesn't raise pressure above 12 for apneas, even if it needs to go higher to prevent them.

It does for me but I think that it is because there is other stuff going on besides a couple of plain OAs without FLs, snores or whatever.
It will go higher than 12...I see it all the time.

Well, iirc, the docs say the 'for her' mode won't raise pressure due to *apneas* over 12... but it'll keep raising it for other reasons...

I It looks like zonker was having a lot of OAs, and no pressure raise...

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:49 pm

Well, iirc, the docs say the 'for her' mode won't raise pressure due to *apneas* over 12... but it'll keep raising it for other reasons...

I It looks like zonker was having a lot of OAs, and no pressure raise...

so, thought i'd show more graphs. tuesday's graph reflects the same settings i've been going along with. then wednesday and thursday show me changing from for her to regular apap. not sure i'm seeing a grand difference. for all three nights my max hit over 13.

not saying i NEEDED more pressure, just sayin'.

any who-
whadaya think?

zonker wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:17 am

whadaya think?

If no negative effects, I think it's a great first step in the right direction. I thought it might be a hard transition.

I see the standard mode responding much more quickly throughout the night - look how jagged the pressure line is.

If this were me, I'd leave it right where it is for a week or two. See if you get any AHI's up in the 3's, like you do occasionally in "for her" mode, and to see how the aerophagia goes. I'd also set a "aerophagia safety net" - maybe 15 or 16 (but then again, I'm a sissy ).

If the trial period goes OK, you can get help from the experts tweaking pressures.

And it's great to see an example of what Pugsy is refering to when she says that "for her" makes mountains out of molehills on the FL chart. The difference on your FL chart is pronounced. Some (maybe all?) of this difference might be due to the standard mode's quicker response to what's happening with your FL's.

Been meaning to ask - can you post a link to a thread where you posted SH charts from your dreamstation? It'd be interesting (to me anyways) to have a look at those. Very curious how high your pressure would get, among other things.

djams wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:38 pm

Been meaning to ask - can you post a link to a thread where you posted SH charts from your dreamstation? It'd be interesting (to me anyways) to have a look at those. Very curious how high your pressure would get, among other things.

not a dreamstation, but sure, i'll post some charts tomorrow. it will be easier to just grab some screenshots. i still have that data separated from my current machine on the same data card.

zonker wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:17 pm

djams wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:38 pm

Been meaning to ask - can you post a link to a thread where you posted SH charts from your dreamstation? It'd be interesting (to me anyways) to have a look at those. Very curious how high your pressure would get, among other things.

not a dreamstation, but sure, i'll post some charts tomorrow. it will be easier to just grab some screenshots. i still have that data separated from my current machine on the same data card.

said charts-

Thanks!
Max pressure 12 - 17 on these. Don't suppose you recall if the 17 caused problems for you.

What's the criteria for FL to be considered an event on respironics machines?

djams wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:29 am

What's the criteria for FL to be considered an event on respironics machines?

I don't know that I have ever seen any criteria for FLs for any machine...just the Apnea, hyponea criteria

djams wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:29 am

Thanks!
Max pressure 12 - 17 on these. Don't suppose you recall if the 17 caused problems for you.

What's the criteria for FL to be considered an event on respironics machines?

no, don't recall if 17 was a problem or not.

here is the latest three nights-
overall, i'm pretty pleased with the direction i'm going. not just the low numbers. 0.77 was a surprise. but so was last night's 1.14. judging by how i felt when i woke up, i thought it would be much higher. have a bit of headache today.

but then, i skipped my evening spin bike routine, so that may have had some impact on both my sleep and how i felt this morning.

i see that my pressure still doesn't get above 13, as compared to what happened with the respironics. but i'm just putting that down to how the two machines react to my events.

whatever. like i say, i think i'm settling in.

maybe it's down to your suggestion to turn of the for her mode?

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:08 am

djams wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:29 am

Thanks!
Max pressure 12 - 17 on these. Don't suppose you recall if the 17 caused problems for you.

What's the criteria for FL to be considered an event on respironics machines?

no, don't recall if 17 was a problem or not.

overall, i'm pretty pleased with the direction i'm going. not just the low numbers. 0.77 was a surprise. but so was last night's 1.14. judging by how i felt when i woke up, i thought it would be much higher. have a bit of headache today.

but then, i skipped my evening spin bike routine, so that may have had some impact on both my sleep and how i felt this morning.

i see that my pressure still doesn't get above 13, as compared to what happened with the respironics. but i'm just putting that down to how the two machines react to my events.

whatever. like i say, i think i'm settling in.

maybe it's down to your suggestion to turn of the for her mode?

I'm glad it may end up working out. Probably too early to say for certain. Hopefully the headache is just a one-off - and you did double on the bike the next night to make up for slacking off!

Gotta tell you - your charts are harder to interpret than mine. For me, "big FL spike out of nowhere=pressure increase=I rolled onto my back." Your FL's couldn't be more different from mine. I'm really in foreign territory here.

Continue to keep us updated...

djams wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:33 pm

I'm glad it may end up working out. Probably too early to say for certain. Hopefully the headache is just a one-off - and you did double on the bike the next night to make up for slacking off!

Gotta tell you - your charts are harder to interpret than mine. For me, "big FL spike out of nowhere=pressure increase=I rolled onto my back." Your FL's couldn't be more different from mine. I'm really in foreign territory here.

Continue to keep us updated...

i think this is down to what palerider says. we are all bags of meat and don't react the same way every time we sleep. i'm not ENTIRELY down with that, but i'm getting there.

here, have some charts-
that 1.45 wasn't too bad, slight headache that evaporated quickly. rather surprised by that 1.77 what with that one cluster. a bit of a headache and fuzzy, but less than the 1.45. took a closer look and if i just go from 4 am until i got out of bed, i had an ahi of 0.23. from 4 am back to when i turned in, it was more like 3.50 or such!

wacky.....