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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:57 am
by allend
blarg wrote:Soyala full face mask:

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And yes, it's the internet. I wouldn't be surprised at all if people voted for things they haven't tried.
blarg,

It looks like a nice mask and I can imagine, like the nasal masks the # of permutations, when you take mask size into consideration can get you to try out 10 before you've tried the most probable good ones for you.

People screw around with responses but I'd bet most don't. I think when they give bad answers, esp in a multiple choice, the answer they select is obviously bad or a joke. Most people here seem to be pretty serious about this problem we all have in common.

Allen

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:59 pm
by track
This poll seems to be badly flawed. The sales and reviews at CPAP certainly do not support the hybrid out ranking any other ffm by an 8 to one margin.


What can you do?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:37 pm
by allend
track wrote:This poll seems to be badly flawed. The sales and reviews at CPAP certainly do not support the hybrid out ranking any other ffm by an 8 to one margin.

Track,

I know and everyone who answered was going to get $50. Well, 16 participations will cost me $800. It could have been $8,000.

Allen


Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:33 pm
by Guest
I like my mask the Hans Rudolph Full Face Mask, but I will say and still say not all masks are suitable for everyone. Once you find what you are comfortable with stay with it.




Sharon

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:21 pm
by oldgearhead
"This poll seems to be badly flawed."

I think it was the subject line that flawed the pole. Because you mentioned
"Hybrid" in the subject, all Hybrid users were attracted to the poll. Try again
without "Hybrid" in the subject line...

When are you sending the $50.00? Do you use PayPal?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:33 pm
by allend
oldgearhead wrote:"This poll seems to be badly flawed."

I think it was the subject line that flawed the pole. Because you mentioned
"Hybrid" in the subject, all Hybrid users were attracted to the poll. Try again
without "Hybrid" in the subject line...

When are you sending the $50.00? Do you use PayPal?
OGH,

Did I forget to mention that you have to pick it up in person? Tomorrow night we're having Murrays (no preservative or growth hormones) Roast Chicken.

Allen

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:39 am
by patbringer
track wrote:[If you have 'chipmunk cheeks" and a small-to-medium size mouth,
the Hybrid may work for you. If you have a long, thin, face, and a
large mouth, I doubt if it will work for you.
So you are saying if a person has a fat face it should work well and if you have a thin face it won't? Darn...I was going to order one but I definitely fit the longer thinner face model.[/quote]

Track and Oldgearhead,

I don't think you can make these generalizations on the Hybrid with the new premium headgear. The thickness, elasticity and stability of the new headgear definitely allow to tighten the lower headstraps more than before and that gives a good seal on the oral/mouth cushion even on thin long faces.

A good friend of mine has a thin long face and he struggled with leaks around the oral cushion on the original Hybrid with the old headgear. He recently got the new premium grey headgear and all his leaks have gone away. He says that it is because he is now able to tighten the lower headstraps a lot more without sacrificing comfort.

Cheers!

Pat


Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:49 am
by mecocosm
track wrote:This poll seems to be badly flawed. The sales and reviews at CPAP certainly do not support the hybrid out ranking any other ffm by an 8 to one margin.

Please remember that cost and time on the market are factors too. In my opinion, the Hybrid is not outselling other FF masks because it costs $175 and it has been out on the market only for 6 months or so. I personally had to think twice about buying a mask that cost $175 and was on the market only 6 months.


Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:36 am
by roster
track wrote:[If you have 'chipmunk cheeks" and a small-to-medium size mouth,
the Hybrid may work for you. If you have a long, thin, face, and a
large mouth, I doubt if it will work for you.
So you are saying if a person has a fat face it should work well and if you have a thin face it won't? Darn...I was going to order one but I definitely fit the longer thinner face model.
I am six foot tall, 168 lbs thin with a thin face (but not very thin) and the Hybrid mask works very well for me even with the original headgear.

I think that any mask will work easier on a "fat face". The more fat the easier for the mask to settle in and seal off leaks.

Goodness, I hope that doesn't sound politically incorrect.


Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:24 am
by track
I think that any mask will work easier on a "fat face". The more fat the easier for the mask to settle in and seal off leaks.

So if my mask leaks all I need to do is put on 50 pounds and walla....no more leaks.....


Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:51 am
by Severeena
I know there are not that many who like or can use my full face mask, but the HR is really comfortable and I do sleep on my side.

Not all masks are for everyone and not everyone can use the same mask as another person.

A good mask that fits and is comfortable is hard to find and that comfort and fit is what makes the treatment of sleep apnea successful.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:46 pm
by neverbetter
track wrote:[If you have 'chipmunk cheeks" and a small-to-medium size mouth,
the Hybrid may work for you. If you have a long, thin, face, and a
large mouth, I doubt if it will work for you.
So you are saying if a person has a fat face it should work well and if you have a thin face it won't? Darn...I was going to order one but I definitely fit the longer thinner face model.[/quote]

Does it really matter with this new headgear? The new headgear works so well that it's hard to spring leaks no matter what your face is shaped like.
The old headgear was another story altogether.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:52 pm
by mecocosm
The new Hybrid headgear absolutely works! My leaks have completely disappeared.

My readings on the Resmed S8 Vantage with EPR are 95% press 12.4, AHI 1.6, AI 0.0.

I'm logging 7+ hours of sleep every night.