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Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:56 am
by Liam_Smiley
mileena wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:08 pm
I read on a veterans site, that if you require PAP therapy, you are automatically given a 50% disabled rating and can get benefits:

https://www.vetshq.com/2016/02/sleep-ap ... sability/
If a veteran requires a continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) device, the VA disability rating for sleep apnea is set at 50 percent or above. With increased claims, the rating schedule for sleep apnea is expected to be included in the VA’s overhaul of the rating schedule (38 CFR Part 4), though no recent changes have been made.
So is everyone here disabled or retired? That's not a bad thing, but I am just wondering.
It's not even close to being that simple. I'm a veteran and having breathing issues related to burnpits while deployed. I never even thought of having Apnea/ Hypopnea since I was young and in shape (hell I'm still only 34). Now several years later, when I finally had a sleep study conducted, I discovered my o2 was low at night from Apnea and has likely become the root cause of other ailments. I submitted a claim to the VA and was denied without actually meeting with a DR to discuss my history. So it's certainly not an automatic thing.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:40 pm
by dh37
I'm a 53 year old male, not retired or disabled. I'm not exactly athletic, but I'm not overweight and am pretty active (limited because I both work a full workweek and have young children).

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
by clenchingtobreathe
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
mileena wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:45 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:23 pm
More Socialist Liberal Fodder, You are only disables if you are too lazy to work for a living, and not smart enough to use your XPAP machine correctly. In which we need to stop providing for your needs period. Jim

I get Agent Orange from V.A. but it's not 50% only 25%, but unlike XPAP it has no cure only death, and I worked hard until I retired. P.S., I'm not a Liberal, and I'm not on the dole!
I read a good post from a vet who defended his disability rating due to OSA. He said because he is a tied to the machine, he is disabled in the same way a person who is tied to an oxygen machine is disabled. Without the CPAP machine, he is doomed. I can't find it now though. I would say that the CPAP machine is life sustaining and without it, you could die. In fact, there was a case in NJ where a woman CPAP user had her power cut off for non-payment, and she died the next day or soon after.
I suppose he sleeps 24 hours each day and doesn't have the time to become a useful member of the human race. Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 pm
by Goofproof
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
mileena wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:45 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:23 pm
More Socialist Liberal Fodder, You are only disables if you are too lazy to work for a living, and not smart enough to use your XPAP machine correctly. In which we need to stop providing for your needs period. Jim

I get Agent Orange from V.A. but it's not 50% only 25%, but unlike XPAP it has no cure only death, and I worked hard until I retired. P.S., I'm not a Liberal, and I'm not on the dole!
I read a good post from a vet who defended his disability rating due to OSA. He said because he is a tied to the machine, he is disabled in the same way a person who is tied to an oxygen machine is disabled. Without the CPAP machine, he is doomed. I can't find it now though. I would say that the CPAP machine is life sustaining and without it, you could die. In fact, there was a case in NJ where a woman CPAP user had her power cut off for non-payment, and she died the next day or soon after.
I suppose he sleeps 24 hours each day and doesn't have the time to become a useful member of the human race. Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....
Good thing I don't seek or need your approval, as it doesn't match mine on any level. :roll: Jim
At least I don't live next door. What you read or take offence with is your problem.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:00 pm
by Captain_Midnight
Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:32 pm
I'm a veteran with an Honorable Discharge and am on XPAP. Not disabled and will never be.
Same exact story here.

(And, if anyone called this 69 yr old vet "disabled", I would challenge them to a 5-mile foot race followed by a game of concentration.)

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Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
by clenchingtobreathe
Goofproof wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
mileena wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:45 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:23 pm
More Socialist Liberal Fodder, You are only disables if you are too lazy to work for a living, and not smart enough to use your XPAP machine correctly. In which we need to stop providing for your needs period. Jim

I get Agent Orange from V.A. but it's not 50% only 25%, but unlike XPAP it has no cure only death, and I worked hard until I retired. P.S., I'm not a Liberal, and I'm not on the dole!
I read a good post from a vet who defended his disability rating due to OSA. He said because he is a tied to the machine, he is disabled in the same way a person who is tied to an oxygen machine is disabled. Without the CPAP machine, he is doomed. I can't find it now though. I would say that the CPAP machine is life sustaining and without it, you could die. In fact, there was a case in NJ where a woman CPAP user had her power cut off for non-payment, and she died the next day or soon after.
I suppose he sleeps 24 hours each day and doesn't have the time to become a useful member of the human race. Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....
Good thing I don't seek or need your approval, as it doesn't match mine on any level. :roll: Jim
At least I don't live next door. What you read or take offence with is your problem.
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:30 pm
by palerider
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
noise wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
noise wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....
Good thing I don't seek or need your approval, as it doesn't match mine on any level. :roll: Jim
At least I don't live next door. What you read or take offence with is your problem.
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.
Welcome to Jim's hateville... There's a crew of small minded people who jump all over everything *I* say, but ol Jim gets a pass with his nastyness... I guess because he's occasionally funny...

Best just to put him on the foe list, because he's regularly spewing his bigoted views.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:12 pm
by Lucyhere
palerider wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:30 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
noise wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
noise wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....
Good thing I don't seek or need your approval, as it doesn't match mine on any level. :roll: Jim
At least I don't live next door. What you read or take offence with is your problem.
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.
Welcome to Jim's hateville... There's a crew of small minded people who jump all over everything *I* say, but ol Jim gets a pass with his nastyness... I guess because he's occasionally funny...

Best just to put him on the foe list, because he's regularly spewing his bigoted views.
Wonders will never cease. I totally agree with palerider on this one. :)

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:48 pm
by zonker
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.
in case you don't know, this is how you put someone on your foe list.

right click on his user name. new menu appears. about 3-4 lines down, click where it says something like add to foe list. follow the directions.

once he's on your foe list, you'll never read his stuff again. the forum software will advise that he's posted. you can click to read if you want to.

only time you'll see his posts are if someone quotes him. nothing you can do about that.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:30 pm
by chunkyfrog
We are all here but a limited time.
It saddens me when some choose to fill what little time they have left with bitterness.
As much as their vitriol upsets me, the wasted energy is all theirs.
They cannot help but to allow that which angers them the most to dwell inside their mind,
RENT FREE.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:53 am
by clenchingtobreathe
palerider wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:30 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
noise wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
noise wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:37 pm
Welcome to Liberalville! Jim
I don't approve of this kind of talk. Insulting me as a liberal has nothing to do with CPAP use or disability. Maybe the original question was not to your liking but your responses are pretty rude and insulting to a large group of people you know nothing about. I didn't expect to see this kind of stuff on a CPAP forum. I see enough of it on FB. It seems unnecessary and unhelpful here. Just sayin.....
Good thing I don't seek or need your approval, as it doesn't match mine on any level. :roll: Jim
At least I don't live next door. What you read or take offence with is your problem.
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.
Welcome to Jim's hateville... There's a crew of small minded people who jump all over everything *I* say, but ol Jim gets a pass with his nastyness... I guess because he's occasionally funny...

Best just to put him on the foe list, because he's regularly spewing his bigoted views.
NO...YOU are funny even when you're tough, palerider! He's just a nasty guy. I "foed" him after that interaction. I'm stressed enough just trying to sleep and breathe at the same time! :lol:

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:55 am
by clenchingtobreathe
zonker wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:48 pm
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 pm
Sort of expected that kind of answer. But, be assured, insulting people is YOUR problem....not mine.
in case you don't know, this is how you put someone on your foe list.

right click on his user name. new menu appears. about 3-4 lines down, click where it says something like add to foe list. follow the directions.

once he's on your foe list, you'll never read his stuff again. the forum software will advise that he's posted. you can click to read if you want to.

only time you'll see his posts are if someone quotes him. nothing you can do about that.
HA! I figured that out right away! Good grief! Which one of us NEEDS more aggravation!? Thanks for being here!!

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:00 am
by clenchingtobreathe
chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:30 pm
We are all here but a limited time.
It saddens me when some choose to fill what little time they have left with bitterness.
As much as their vitriol upsets me, the wasted energy is all theirs.
They cannot help but to allow that which angers them the most to dwell inside their mind,
RENT FREE.
Absolutely! And I TRULY appreciate those of you who have (and still are) going down the rugged road of apnea & CPAP and continue to support the rest of us with advice and humor. I would have quit the effort WEEKS ago had it not been for all the help I've received here!! :!:

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:57 pm
by palerider
clenchingtobreathe wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:00 am
chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:30 pm
We are all here but a limited time.
It saddens me when some choose to fill what little time they have left with bitterness.
As much as their vitriol upsets me, the wasted energy is all theirs.
They cannot help but to allow that which angers them the most to dwell inside their mind,
RENT FREE.
Absolutely! And I TRULY appreciate those of you who have (and still are) going down the rugged road of apnea & CPAP and continue to support the rest of us with advice and humor. I would have quit the effort WEEKS ago had it not been for all the help I've received here!! :!:
Comments like that are what makes the effort worthwhile.

Re: Are all CPAP users disabled?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:42 pm
by Slartybartfast
My dear old Gramma used to say, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything OR I'LL SLAP YOU!"