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James,

I have no idea what you mean by the threads.

I open the Encore then export patient.

Is there a different weay of doing it?

jskinner wrote:

SelfSeeker wrote: I will try the transfer again and wait at least 30 minutes or until the hard drive stops working.

I've got a 1.2GigHz machine and I have had a few imports/exports take almost a half hour (and yes I started to think the application had hung as well )

I suspect if you wait long enough it will complete.

Having said that, clearly Encore Pro was not well designed in this regard since its UI locks up during these functions. Looks like they are using the main thread to do these functions instead of passing them off to a worker thread.

He's just talking about the design of the software.

Just to reinforce what James is saying, I do this all the time. I have Encore at home and at work. I often transfer the data from home to work, especially on days of sleep doc appointments so I can make hime a nice color packet with all the neat info I'm not suppose to have. Just export the file and import the file thru Encore. However, I have had my export take over an hour. The program appears to lock up, but it eventually works. I often have to start the download shortly after getting up in able to have it before I leave for work. I just put it on a flash drive and upload when I get to work. Uploading seems faster, although I have a faster computer at work. Maybe Encore is just trying to teach an important lesson in dealing with OSA - PATIENCE!

SelfSeeker wrote: I open the Encore then export patient.
Is there a different weay of doing it?

No, that is the correct way.

This discussion about threads has to do with the way that Encore Pro is designed internally. Nothing that you have control over.

LOL Sleepless_in_LM


Thanks Blarg and James.

How much memory is needed for 3 month worth of data? (I download every couple of days.)


I am patiently or NOT waiting for the exportof the files into the shared documents. Then use the home net to move it to the new computer.

I figured a 1 GB memory stick would not have been enough to do the transfer by transfering to the stick then to the new harddrive.

Sleepless_in_LM wrote:Just to reinforce what James is saying, I do this all the time. I have Encore at home and at work. I often transfer the data from home to work, especially on days of sleep doc appointments so I can make hime a nice color packet with all the neat info I'm not suppose to have. Just export the file and import the file thru Encore. However, I have had my export take over an hour. The program appears to lock up, but it eventually works. I often have to start the download shortly after getting up in able to have it before I leave for work. I just put it on a flash drive and upload when I get to work. Uploading seems faster, although I have a faster computer at work. Maybe Encore is just trying to teach an important lesson in dealing with OSA - PATIENCE!

SelfSeeker wrote:LOL Sleepless_in_LM
How much memory is needed for 3 month worth of data? (I download every couple of days.)

I have 4 months of data and the resulting XML file is 124Megs (when you say memory I assume you mean file size? )

SelfSeeker wrote: I figured a 1 GB memory stick would not have been enough to do the transfer by transferring to the stick then to the new harddrive.

1 Gig is a lot, it should be way more then enough. Again if its not enough you can compress it first. My 124 meg file compresses down to 1.3 Megs (you could put over 700 of these on your 1 Gig card)

SelfSeeker wrote:
How much memory is needed for 3 month worth of data? (I download every couple of days.)

It is not really that large. It seems to be growing faster now that I am using an APAP, but all my data is only about 90meg. I really don't know why it takes so long to export?

On a side note, funny how things change. When I bought my first computer I had the option of a 20 or 30 meg drive. I opted for the 30 even though I couldn't imagine using that much

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Sleepless_in_LM wrote:When I bought my first computer I had the option of a 20 or 30 meg drive. I opted for the 30 even though I couldn't imagine using that much

My first computer had no hard drive, 1K of memory, and ran at 3.25 MHz! I later upgraded to 16K of RAM and wondered how I would ever use it all...

Ah I miss those days of loading programs from cassette tape...

LOL both of you.

Well it has been tranafering for about 2:45 hours so far.

My first computers used 64k of machine memory, my buddy had a Timex Sinclare, it had 16K of upgraded memory, I had to use Tape Drive for the first few months, as they sold out of floppy disc drives. Last year I almost cried, I through them all in the trash, still working. They had cost me over $2,000 and weren't worth $50 now. 2,000 programs too.

You can't keep everthing. Had to make room to store my XPAP stuff. Jim

James

For the computer geeks in the crowd (Like me!), have you tried to use Enterprise Manager to backup the database and do a restore to another computer?

I've done the backup several times, and it only takes a moment. I've just not tried to restore them anywhere yet.

Since it sounds like Encore Pro's export / import function works so poorly, I would prefer to use this method if I ever have to move or worse yet recover a corrupt database.

jcranmer wrote:For the computer geeks in the crowd (Like me!), have you tried to use Enterprise Manager to backup the database and do a restore to another computer?

For the more computer savy directly backing up the SQL database should work fine. I just don't think its something the regular user should get into.

jcranmer wrote:Since it sounds like Encore Pro's export / import function works so poorly, I would prefer to use this method if I ever have to move or worse yet recover a corrupt database.

In my experience export/import works, its just slow and locks up the UI while processing. Once advantage of using the XML file format is that you can back up say on a version 1.5 of Encore Pro and restore on a newer version (say 1.6). That won't work if you back up the database because the table structure are different.

LOL, Way back in the good all days, I envied computers and used a manual typewriter.

My early computer days of basic and Pascal are a very distant memory.

I remember when windows started coming in, I remember preferring using the C drive to type commands instead of what was there in the "new" stuff.

Well, Export did not work. I needed to leave the laptop went into hybrination 6 + hours later, still nothing. I did get one message early on that send not enough vertual memory.

Next thing empty everything else off the laptop and see if that helps.

Thanks James!

I use Enterprise Manager to make a regular backup of the database through a DB maintenance plan. I had assumed that a restore wouldn't be an issue, but I haven't had a chance to try to do a restore yet.


Oh and since I haven't had a chance yet, thank you for EPA. It really fills in the gaps that Encore Pro has!

It's sad that this part of Encore is so poorly designed that it needs THAT much memory to export a single patient.