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Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 am
by D.H.
I used to take Provigil (for excessive day time sleepiness due to Sleep Apnea). That was sending my blood sugar from normal to borderline. I stopped taking it and blood sugar went back to normal after a few months. So the question is, are you also taking any medication for excessive day time sleepiness?

It took more than ten years, but excessive daytime sleepiness finally resolved itself!

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:48 am
by SewTired
Gracie, this may have been addressed and I missed it, but if you are normal weight and having blood glucose issues, have you seen an endocrinologist for a consult to rule out other problems as well as whether you might have what is popularly called type 1.5?

Obviously, your personal experiment shows that your blood sugar indeed goes down when you aren't using the cpap. The fact that you also have anxiety issues probably have nothing to do with it. I do agree that effective or ineffective breathing can make a difference in blood sugar, but I do NOT agree that it would cause diabetes. Potentially, it could worsen what is already there, however. The thing is, if you do indeed have type 1.5, treatment is not the same as with Type 2 because it is essentially adult-onset type 1.

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by D.H.
Type 1.5? I don't know why they would call it that just because of adult onset. The late Mary Tyler Moore was diagnosed with "juvenile diabetes" (now called type one) at age 33. In fact, the name was changed due to a number of cases of adult onset.

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:25 pm
by nanwilson
D.H. wrote:Type 1.5? I don't know why they would call it that just because of adult onset. The late Mary Tyler Moore was diagnosed with "juvenile diabetes" (now called type one) at age 33. In fact, the name was changed due to a number of cases of adult onset.
When did you become an expert of diseases. I too was told I was creeping up to be a type 2 diabetic, Doc said I was at 1.5 and if I watched my diet I would be okay. Have been watching when and what I eat per instructions from our dietician, and I have not crept up past that in 5 years.

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:54 pm
by Wulfman...
nanwilson wrote:
D.H. wrote:Type 1.5? I don't know why they would call it that just because of adult onset. The late Mary Tyler Moore was diagnosed with "juvenile diabetes" (now called type one) at age 33. In fact, the name was changed due to a number of cases of adult onset.
When did you become an expert of diseases. I too was told I was creeping up to be a type 2 diabetic, Doc said I was at 1.5 and if I watched my diet I would be okay. Have been watching when and what I eat per instructions from our dietician, and I have not crept up past that in 5 years.
Some links regarding Diabetes Type 1.5 (LADA). It's real.

https://www.thediabetescouncil.com/type ... -overview/

http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/ma ... e-1-5.html

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... q-20057880


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Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:38 pm
by SewTired
nanwilson wrote:
D.H. wrote:Type 1.5? I don't know why they would call it that just because of adult onset. The late Mary Tyler Moore was diagnosed with "juvenile diabetes" (now called type one) at age 33. In fact, the name was changed due to a number of cases of adult onset.
When did you become an expert of diseases. I too was told I was creeping up to be a type 2 diabetic, Doc said I was at 1.5 and if I watched my diet I would be okay. Have been watching when and what I eat per instructions from our dietician, and I have not crept up past that in 5 years.
Nan, I don't think your doctor understood what 1.5 means. I think your doc meant that you were pre-diabetic (defined as abnormal blood sugar, but not high enough for 'official' diagnosis of diabetes). Careful diet works wonders for that. LADA (1.5) is an immune system disorder that eventually destroys your beta cells. Careful diet isn't going to do squat. Starting insulin early will save beta cells for a longer time. A lot of primaries don't know 1.5 (LADA) even exists which is why I mentioned for the OP to see an endocrinologist because most of the diabetes medications are inappropriate for LADA. I have both Type 2 and LADA. Careful diet could eliminate the extra Levemir needed for the insulin resistance, but I will always need insulin since my beta cells are mostly gone now.

Currently, the estimate is that up to 10% of all people diagnosed as Type 2 in the US actually have LADA. In addition to the info Den linked to, people who are most at risk for LADA are Scandinavian (includes Swedish and Finnish), but it can occur in any group.

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:23 pm
by klv329
If cpap increases morning glucose relative to morning readings without cpap, but why?

Is it that non-sleep burns more calories or what?

My fasting glucose was over 124 for years, then went ASV and now it hits 94 or so within a few hours of eating and I have to eat protein periodically to keep glucose levels steadier.. A1C was 4.9 a couple of weeks ago, down 1.0 from a year ago, and eating habits are worse and weight is more.

Maybe some other problem reduces blood sugar like drinking this microbrewery dark beer at BTR - brewers tasting room, my "medicine".

Re: CPAP raising blood sugar!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:16 pm
by SewTired
klv329 wrote:If cpap increases morning glucose relative to morning readings without cpap, but why?

Is it that non-sleep burns more calories or what?

My fasting glucose was over 124 for years, then went ASV and now it hits 94 or so within a few hours of eating and I have to eat protein periodically to keep glucose levels steadier.. A1C was 4.9 a couple of weeks ago, down 1.0 from a year ago, and eating habits are worse and weight is more.

Maybe some other problem reduces blood sugar like drinking this microbrewery dark beer at BTR - brewers tasting room, my "medicine".
This is just conjecture, but if you are breathing 'better' with the ASV, assuming that you are type 2, either the improved breathing is making your body systems work better so that you are less insulin resistant OR your body is actually working harder to breath and you are using more energy and thus more glucose.