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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:57 pm
by Snoredog
I may just get myself a new Intel imac for Christmas, I have a Mac Mini running 10.4 tiger and it is a slug (non-Intel version), I use it as a big iPod, worked great in my RV.

I have a couple Toshiba laptops and a Sony laptop running XP and a PC running Red Hat Linux, can't even remember what version it has, think it is 7.x or something. Now that Oracle is going to put them out of business, think I'll stick with Mac. Laptops are okay if you travel but they sure don't hold up very well under heavy use, I wear all the letters off the keys (no more Toshiba's for me, replaced keyboards several times, only get about a year out of them).

I wouldn't mind using Mac full time, surf the net, check email and play iTunes is all I use it for anyway.


Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:19 pm
by Snoredog
jskinner wrote:
Snoredog wrote: Only problem you may have is deciphering the Respironics encryption key embedded in the special driver they use.
Snoredog,

Do you have any more info on the encryption used? Do you know if its a symmetric or asymmetric encryption being employed?

-james

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:26 am
by blarg
If it's encrypted I do have the tools I need to break the encryption. Step one though is to install both drivers and see what's different. Unless they hid the key REALLY well I'll be able to find it quite easily. The hard part would be correctly writing data out, which we don't want to do anyway. The other option on Windows at least is to see how to interface with their driver and let them do the decoding.

This is all very doable. I'll start a thread with my discoveries as I make them, so gimme a week or so and we should at least have an idea of what we're up against. Since there seems to be a lot of people wondering so I'll go ahead and start a thread with my discoveries thus far on each platform. It's a brainstorming space. Oh, also, I only plan to support the DT-3500 USB card reader. Macs don't even have serial ports, and PCMCIA is long gone on them as well (ExpressCard now). For windows users that use them, sorry. I think most people have the USB version anyway.

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:24 am
by Josh S
Good Luck and Godspeed. I am looking to get a back up APAP, and was only looking as RESMED, because as a 100% MAC home and work, the resmed was the only one I could get my stats from. I would love to have some cheaper options.


Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:19 pm
by cflame1
Josh, there was a discussion on here not that long ago about running Encore Pro on a Mac computer... you might want to look it up.


Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:25 pm
by telly
Snoredog wrote:I may just get myself a new Intel imac for Christmas, I have a Mac Mini running 10.4 tiger and it is a slug (non-Intel version), I use it as a big iPod, worked great in my RV.
SD. If you get a new rig, don't go for the cheapest 17" iMac. Go for the one that is one step up as it has a faster video card and more RAM. I have that one and it i GREAT. This coming from a dyed in the wool Mac Head.

Not many know: A good video card is essential for Tiger and for the upcoming Leopard operating systems. It is also the reason why the Intel single core Mini is a "dog".
I have a couple Toshiba laptops and a Sony laptop running XP and a PC running Red Hat Linux, can't even remember what version it has, think it is 7.x or something. Now that Oracle is going to put them out of business, think I'll stick with Mac.
I run XP on my iMac via a program called "Parallels" which is verrrry slick.

http://www.parallels.com
Laptops are okay if you travel but they sure don't hold up very well under heavy use, I wear all the letters off the keys (no more Toshiba's for me, replaced keyboards several times, only get about a year out of them).
Make way: power user!!
I wouldn't mind using Mac full time, surf the net, check email and play iTunes is all I use it for anyway.
Oh man. I am addicted to GarageBand, SoundTrack Pro, Logic, Final Cut Studio, Live, man....the list goes on. My little iMac is MONSTROUS in its horsepower compared to my G4.

Good luck and PM me for any Q's on Mac Stuff.


Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:28 pm
by yardbird
If you run Parallels or Boot Camp on your intel Mac, you can run Encore Pro in a WindowsXP install. Actually... you can also run linux the same way on the mac.

I use linux at home. I have VMWare installed with a WindowsXP guest on the linux host. The only advantage in using VMWare is that I don't have to reboot to use the other operating system. I just start the VM (Virtual Machine) and boot windows within it. I am still in linux with winXP in a window (how ironic is THAT? )

When I'm done with XP I just shut down the VM.

If you're a PC person, there will be a bit of a learning curve getting used to your new mac, but anything that'll get you away from Windows is probably going to be a blessing at least in part. Apple hardware is hugely overpriced, generally. (I work in IT and order machines and service parts for Apples, Dells, Lenovo, Sony,.... so I'm not just talkin through my hat here).

But the software that comes STANDARD on a Mac for anything multimedia, is better than most software you can BUY for a PC. A 20" iMac is awesome!


Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:05 pm
by krousseau
Alas it is a compaq-and it is the ONLY thing it gets used for. If Encore ever stops working on it--is when I'll get an Apple with Windows & Boot Camp!! Fortunately I have two Macs to keep me company and run the graphics and photo stuff I like to do.

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:44 pm
by Snoredog
[quote="yardbird"]If you run Parallels or Boot Camp on your intel Mac, you can run Encore Pro in a WindowsXP install. Actually... you can also run linux the same way on the mac.

I use linux at home. I have VMWare installed with a WindowsXP guest on the linux host. The only advantage in using VMWare is that I don't have to reboot to use the other operating system. I just start the VM (Virtual Machine) and boot windows within it. I am still in linux with winXP in a window (how ironic is THAT? )

When I'm done with XP I just shut down the VM.

If you're a PC person, there will be a bit of a learning curve getting used to your new mac, but anything that'll get you away from Windows is probably going to be a blessing at least in part. Apple hardware is hugely overpriced, generally. (I work in IT and order machines and service parts for Apples, Dells, Lenovo, Sony,.... so I'm not just talkin through my hat here).

But the software that comes STANDARD on a Mac for anything multimedia, is better than most software you can BUY for a PC. A 20" iMac is awesome!


Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:47 pm
by yardbird
Snoredog-

yup... working MUCH better now. In fact virtualization is becoming a huge thing in IT as we need more and more servers and are rapidly running out of space in the data centers. VMWare has also gotten much better at letting the guest OS interact with hardware.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:01 pm
by Ligament
PLEASE develop a Mac version!

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:53 pm
by tohosa
Ligament wrote:PLEASE develop a Mac version!
Yes, please.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:23 pm
by air
Well, i think the worst OS choise is usually the "single OS" choise.
I mean that unless there are serious complications, one should go for an OS independent solution.

In our case, we have the driver limitation, so the full app would not be completely OS independent.
I think the best thing would be a modular solution, where the driver part would be different for each OS, while the rest would be the same.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:37 pm
by blarg
Actually, believe it or not, the same source should work on OS X and Linux for drivers, and then to hook into it, pcscd is source compatible with the wincard framework, so really, we should be able to just have 1 piece of code that compiles and runs on all 3 oses.