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It is highly unlikely that mold will grow in your CPAP tube. Mold needs two things in order to grow. Water/moisture & nutrients (like cellulose, organic materials). Your tubing does have the moisture elements but not too likely to have much, if any, organic nutrients. There's really no health hazard.

p.s.-Tomjax-how do you like your Breeze? My doc just ordered me one.

Ciao

dj

Still looking for a single reason to dry a hose

I can give you that. An F&P rep who presented on humidification recently at my local AWAKE meeting said:

"2 tablespoons of condensation in your CPAP "circuit" can cause downward spikes in your delivered pressure of up to 80%. "Circuit" means a combination of the humidifier tank, the hose and the mask."

He was addressing the hazards of rainout, but logically this would also apply to any moisture. This information is also in F&P literature he handed out and it is based on tests they have done.

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MandoJohnny wrote:

Still looking for a single reason to dry a hose

I can give you that. An F&P rep who presented on humidification recently at my local AWAKE meeting said:

"2 tablespoons of condensation in your CPAP "circuit" can cause downward spikes in your delivered pressure of up to 80%. "Circuit" means a combination of the humidifier tank, the hose and the mask."

He was addressing the hazards of rainout, but logically this would also apply to any moisture. This information is also in F&P literature he handed out and it is based on tests they have done.

I would like to see the F/P report and the context of it.

If this is the case, then everyone using a HH and has rainout is having this problem.
ANd what is meant by a spike and how long does the 80 pct last?
What is the significance of this?
Does it leat to events and what type?
Did the F/P rep say everyone should get up and dry their hose everytime they get rainout?

In any event, this does not sound like a reason to dry the hose, does it?

Can anyone put 2 tbsp of water in the hose and monitor the pressure with the software. Looks like it should show up to moi,

All I can say is contact F&P. They have graphs and everything. The spikes I saw are temporary, but even a temp. spike could cause incidents. The F&P rep did not say dry the hose everytime you have rainout, he said avoid rainout, period, because it messes with your therapy. It is more than an inconvenience.

He is a career RT and a CPAP user for 8 years himself. He was personally been involved in some of this research. But hey, you do what you want. I am not trying to convince you. I'm posting this for everyone else's benefit. The F&P convinced me, so I dry my hose. My answer is indeed a logical reason to dry the hose, even if it is not a reason you buy into.

Is it possible that F and P has a vested interest in promoting this idea since they as I understand it are the only ones, with the exception of the makers of the Aussie heated hose, that have a heated hose to sell?

Is it possible that F and P has a vested interest in promoting this idea since they as I understand it are the only ones, with the exception of the makers of the Aussie heated hose, that have a heated hose to sell?

Sure, no question about it. They definitely have a vested interest, just like all the other CPAP companies that give talks and sponsor events. What came first with F&P, the research or the product? I dunno.

I still found the talk and the information interesting and credibile. BTW, in addition to F&P studies, he cited some independent stuff that was published in medical journals. Also, that Aussie hose gets great reviews here. F&P has taken that idea a step further by fully integrating with a machine. I think that is a great idea that I'm surprised the other guys haven't picked up on.

Back to topic --

I washed my hose today 2:00pm

Shook out water, Hung to dry.

1.5 hours ago I started apap, no water in HH, card removed, hose only attached.

Just checked and guess what? Its dry!

No big mystery here, pretty simple to me.

DB

IF I needed to dry my hose, I would do it this way:
Take hose outside.
Holding one end securely, swing that baby around and around; centrifugal force will (should?) force out the water.
Repeat, holding on to opposite end.
Hang hose from the center, in a warm, dry environment. (by hanging it 'in half', the time should also be 'halved'.

I would never introduce anything 'foreign' into the hose or humidifier.

I had 'rainout' once, then solved the problem.

I have NEVER cleaned my hose or humidifier, as I use distilled water, and keep the air filters clean on my APAP.

If one is worried about the purity of the air they are getting in their mask, why not put a filter at THAT end, to collect "whatever", then have it analyzed? Not trying to be a smart-ass, but that's the only way I could agree with there being a problem with the air I'm breathing.

Holding one end securely, swing that baby around and around; centrifugal force will (should?) force out the water.

I do that before I do the mask test thing. It helps, but it does not force much of the water. The combination of surface tension and the ridges inside the hose keep most of it in.

MandoJohnny wrote:

Holding one end securely, swing that baby around and around; centrifugal force will (should?) force out the water.

I do that before I do the mask test thing. It helps, but it does not force much of the water. The combination of surface tension and the ridges inside the hose keep most of it in.

Johnny: I'm glad I included that word "SHOULD", ha ha. Forgot about those darn ridges! But it WOULD be a fun thing to do, especially if any neighbors are watching !