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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:55 am
by dsm
Snoredog wrote:
<snip>
I just wanted to put to rest this huge difference of noise levels, there really isn't much difference between them.
<snip>
Snoredog,
Sorry but a db test is
meaningless to prove this point.
It is PITCH that disturbs people P-I-T-C-H.
Cheers
DSM
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:38 pm
by Justin_Case
dsm wrote:
Snoredog,
Sorry but a db test is meaningless to prove this point.
It is PITCH that disturbs people P-I-T-C-H.
Cheers
DSM
The Tech at Respironics told me as they have had a lot of complaints on the noise but it's the PITCH that's different. To me, my spouse, and DME, the M was still much much louder than the the previous model.
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:12 pm
by Snoredog
dsm wrote:Snoredog wrote:
<snip>
I just wanted to put to rest this huge difference of noise levels, there really isn't much difference between them.
<snip>
Snoredog,
Sorry but a db test is
meaningless to prove this point.
It is PITCH that disturbs people P-I-T-C-H.
Cheers
DSM
more
from down under
Retyped right out of the manual:
A-weighting has a A-curve frequency characteristics. This setting causes the meter to respond mainly to frequencies in the 500-to-10,000Hz range, which is the human ear's most sensitive range.
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:27 pm
by Justin_Case
Snoredog, I want that bull...do you have the gif?
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:29 pm
by dsm
Snoredog wrote:dsm wrote:Snoredog wrote:
<snip>
I just wanted to put to rest this huge difference of noise levels, there really isn't much difference between them.
<snip>
Snoredog,
Sorry but a db test is
meaningless to prove this point.
It is PITCH that disturbs people P-I-T-C-H.
Cheers
DSM
more
from down under
Retyped right out of the manual:
A-weighting has a A-curve frequency characteristics. This setting causes the meter to respond mainly to frequencies in the 500-to-10,000Hz range, which is the human ear's most sensitive range.
And this post is just more natural normal SD
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:47 am
by Guesrrt
Some of you folks REALLY need to get a life....seriously....
These machines are made to save your life and all you do is worry whether one is "louder" than another?
If you can't take the noise (which is the silliest thing I've read), go buy some freaking ear plugs.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:44 am
by Justin Case
Guesrrt, you clearly know nothing.
I think talking about all this noise has done something to my cpap. It is suddenly noisy, especially though the tubing and mask. Wearing ear plugs amplifies the noise in the mask and tubing.
I will try to see my DME to have him figure things out, but there are no leaks or anything....the thing is just really noisy now.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:54 am
by Snoredog
[quote="Justin Case"]Guesrrt, you clearly know nothing.
I think talking about all this noise has done something to my cpap. It is suddenly noisy, especially though the tubing and mask. Wearing ear plugs amplifies the noise in the mask and tubing.
I will try to see my DME to have him figure things out, but there are no leaks or anything....the thing is just really noisy now.
Thanks!
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 am
by GoofyUT
[quote="Snoredog"][quote="Justin Case"]Guesrrt, you clearly know nothing.
I think talking about all this noise has done something to my cpap. It is suddenly noisy, especially though the tubing and mask. Wearing ear plugs amplifies the noise in the mask and tubing.
I will try to see my DME to have him figure things out, but there are no leaks or anything....the thing is just really noisy now.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:13 am
by Wulfman
Justin_Case wrote:Snoredog, I want that bull...do you have the gif?
Justin,
Just right-click on the picture and save it to your hard drive.
Den
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:34 am
by Wulfman
Guesrrt wrote:Some of you folks REALLY need to get a life....seriously....
These machines are made to save your life and all you do is worry whether one is "louder" than another?
If you can't take the noise (which is the silliest thing I've read), go buy some freaking ear plugs.
Ahhhh.....YOU must sleep alone, too.
After reading the comments about the different generations of machines, I thought it was an interesting test.....and I thank Snoredog for posting it.
In many cases, it's the (non-CPAP) spouses that complain about the noise (because we CPAPers are sound asleep).
In my case, my machines are whisper quiet but my wife says she can hear them from HER room.....and has made it perfectly clear that I'm not going to bring any of them in there! (suggesting earplugs to her is also not an option)
Den (saving my life with CPAP....and whatever it takes to do so)
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:15 pm
by Fletch
I think a "tollerable" level of sound is very much a matter of environment and personal opinion. I grew up in a neighborhood next to a working coal mine, I had the sound of the equipment 24/7 and the coal trains being marshalled and run out of the freight yards. Consequently I can sleep though most things and I think my CPAP machine is actually quieter than the room air filter/ioniser my wife runs during the summer to help deal with her alergies.
Does the Remstar M do a good job as a CPAP? If it does I'm guessing you will get used to the noise.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:23 pm
by Guesssr
Exactly Fletch.....
That's why it astounds me to continue to see repeated threads on here discussing "noise" from any CPAP. It's literally ridiculous to assume that a major manufacturer like Respironics would put out a machine that is untolerable. Do you think they employ a bunch of deaf moron engineers and R&D people?
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:29 pm
by Guest
Guesssr wrote:Exactly Fletch.....
Do you think they employ a bunch of deaf moron engineers and R&D people?
I heard they left and went to work for Resmed in the Marketing department
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:00 pm
by Justin_Case
I think some are imposing your own unilateral views, beliefs, and opinions on others. We have to take into account the "majority" or the fact that most people have not grown up or live in a noisy environment. If most people grew up or live next to a firehall with sirens going on and off all night or if you liven in an area where gun shots and sirens were common then CPAP will be quiet as a whipser.
For most of us, noise is not a common element during sleep. The fact that most us are not accustomed to noise while sleeping deserves acknowledgement and not your selfishness. There is NOTHING natural about xPAP. No wonder compliance is so low.
For those that are not bothered by it or noise in general, that's your opinion but you don't represent the majority of the population.