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mrbreezeet1 wrote:49'r sorry about your cancer, hope you are alright now.

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Thanks, haven't yet started treatment as I am seeking a 2nd opinion.

mrbreezeet1 wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:

prodigyplace wrote:I must have misread.
I thought this was CPAPtalk.com not CRAPtalk.com

Easter is weird huh? They say he died (on a Friday I think?) and then on the third day rose again (wouldn't that be a Monday?).

Anyway, sure do hope your day improves cuz groundhog daze sucks.

No, the counted Friday as the first day. Friday, Saturday, Sunday,..... 123rd day.
Way I see it.


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I've noticed the most common approach to the study is .... "Way I see it."

Theology is a very interpretive form of study (w/ an infinite number of "ways to see it") ... a little different from the scientific method or the traditional logic of Aristotle that I'm more familiar with. Although I was not schooled in the scientific method or western philosophy at the time, when I was 12 years old, my parents started sending me to Sunday school. After a few months, the priest asked them not to bring me because I asked way too many questions ... what he didn't tell my parents was that he was unable to answer most of my questions.

Anyway. Back to how "you see it". Even if you count Friday, there are still 24 hours in a day right? So let's say the Judean court business hours were from 8 to 5 and we assume that Pilate's death sentence was carried out by EOB at 5 PM Friday ... then 5 PM Saturday would be 1 day and 1 night (full 24 hours), and 5 PM Sunday would be 2 days and 2 nights (48 hours) -- ergo 5 PM Monday would make a full 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) .... now substitute 8 AM for 5 PM and we still arrive on a Monday -- weird no?

So Happy Easter again to those who use the 24-hour per day system!

DreamStalker wrote:Even if you count Friday, there are still 24 hours in a day right? So let's say the Judean court business hours were from 8 to 5 and we assume that Pilate's death sentence was carried out by EOB at 5 PM Friday ... then 5 PM Saturday would be 1 day and 1 night (full 24 hours), and 5 PM Sunday would be 2 days and 2 nights (48 hours) -- ergo 5 PM Monday would make a full 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) .... now substitute 8 AM for 5 PM and we still arrive on a Monday -- weird no?

What if someone told you they were going on a three-day trip? And then said the first day would start with a Red Sox afternoon home game on Friday, a tour of Boston on the second day and sailing out of Newport on the third day. Would you think they are sailing on Monday?

DreamStalker wrote:the traditional logic of Aristotle that I'm more familiar with

There are some doubts about whether you actually passed the course.

Hang Fire wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:Even if you count Friday, there are still 24 hours in a day right? So let's say the Judean court business hours were from 8 to 5 and we assume that Pilate's death sentence was carried out by EOB at 5 PM Friday ... then 5 PM Saturday would be 1 day and 1 night (full 24 hours), and 5 PM Sunday would be 2 days and 2 nights (48 hours) -- ergo 5 PM Monday would make a full 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) .... now substitute 8 AM for 5 PM and we still arrive on a Monday -- weird no?

What if someone told you they were going on a three-day trip? And then said the first day would start with a Red Sox afternoon home game on Friday, a tour of Boston on the second day and sailing out of Newport on the third day. Would you think they are sailing on Monday?

You seem very opinionated about your math/semantics. That's cool, so am I.
But to answer your question, if "I" took a 3-day trip, "I" would plan a full 72 hours of time. Now in your hypothetical, I suspect you threw in the "they" sailing out of Newport on Monday to CYA or insert as a trick question but I have doubts about whether you actually could trick anyone with that. Just saying.

Hang Fire wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:the traditional logic of Aristotle that I'm more familiar with

There are some doubts about whether you actually passed the course.

What course are you talking about? I've never taken a course from Aristotle ... he died over 2,300 years ago ... assuming 24-hour days of course.

So yes. One day for ME= 24 hours ... for you, not so much.

And if Aristotle had been Jewish, I believe he would well have counted his days as being sunset-to-sunset anyway. Just sayin'.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_c ... sh-Day.htm

Hang Fire wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:Even if you count Friday, there are still 24 hours in a day right? So let's say the Judean court business hours were from 8 to 5 and we assume that Pilate's death sentence was carried out by EOB at 5 PM Friday ... then 5 PM Saturday would be 1 day and 1 night (full 24 hours), and 5 PM Sunday would be 2 days and 2 nights (48 hours) -- ergo 5 PM Monday would make a full 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) .... now substitute 8 AM for 5 PM and we still arrive on a Monday -- weird no?

What if someone told you they were going on a three-day trip? And then said the first day would start with a Red Sox afternoon home game on Friday, a tour of Boston on the second day and sailing out of Newport on the third day. Would you think they are sailing on Monday?

DreamStalker wrote:the traditional logic of Aristotle that I'm more familiar with

There are some doubts about whether you actually passed the course.

RIGHT!!
That's They way The Bible says it.
Hang Fire is still saying,
OK, friday, 5 pm till sat 5pm EDIT = 1 day, NOT + 1 DAY, Saturday, 5 pm till sunday 5 pm, =2 days, Sunday, 5 pm till Mon 5 PM is the 3 rd day.
SO NO,It is just like Hang Fire and I say, They are counting Friday as one full day, and the first day. Has to be.
I didn't write the bible, but you know they word stuff weird back then.
Now You're wrong, don't give me your attitude, that is that!............................ .....JK

jnk... wrote:And if Aristotle had been Jewish, I believe he would well have counted his days as being sunset-to-sunset anyway. Just sayin'.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_c ... sh-Day.htm

Holy Cow! .... uhhh wait, that's the other religion.

I mean Holy Moses! The Jewish calendar is based on 24 hour days too.

Now that's information I can use! For planning and scheduling anyway.

mrbreezeet1 wrote:

Hang Fire wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:Even if you count Friday, there are still 24 hours in a day right? So let's say the Judean court business hours were from 8 to 5 and we assume that Pilate's death sentence was carried out by EOB at 5 PM Friday ... then 5 PM Saturday would be 1 day and 1 night (full 24 hours), and 5 PM Sunday would be 2 days and 2 nights (48 hours) -- ergo 5 PM Monday would make a full 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) .... now substitute 8 AM for 5 PM and we still arrive on a Monday -- weird no?

What if someone told you they were going on a three-day trip? And then said the first day would start with a Red Sox afternoon home game on Friday, a tour of Boston on the second day and sailing out of Newport on the third day. Would you think they are sailing on Monday?

DreamStalker wrote:the traditional logic of Aristotle that I'm more familiar with

There are some doubts about whether you actually passed the course.

RIGHT!!
That's They way The Bible says it.
Hang Fire is still saying,
OK, friday, 5 pm till sat 5pm + 1 day, Saturday, 5 pm till sunday 5 pm, =2 days, Sunday, 5 pm till Mon 5 PM is the 3 rd day.
SO NO,It is just like Hang Fire and I say, They are counting Friday as one full day, and the first day. Has to be.
I didn't write the bible, but you know they word stuff weird back then.
Now You're wrong, don't give me your attitude, that is that!............................ .....JK

Indeed. That's what I should have said initially to avoid this confabulated off topic discussion ... it iz weird word stuff and weird math too.

Now back onto the topic at hand, rudeness ... Hang Fire, ball is in your court.

DreamStalker wrote:. . . The Jewish calendar is based on 24 hour days too. . . .

Um. Not always. No.

"In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day.” --The Jewish Encyclopedia.

jnk... wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:. . . The Jewish calendar is based on 24 hour days too. . . .

Um. Not always. No.

"In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day.” --The Jewish Encyclopedia.

Oh man ..... so we're back to weird word and math stuff again.

That's why I could never make it as a theologian. It's just like lawyer and accountant talk all jumbled together ... and on tax day no less.

Happy Tax Day Everybody!!

Yep. It's the same today, DS. 'Yesterday, today, and tomorrow' is considered in common speech as three separate days, even when only parts of three days are meant when describing the timing and duration of an event. 'Three days and nights' doesn't always mean three full days and nights. So less than 72 hours can still be described that way.

Then again, I don't know if this post will get to you right away, since I'm in eastern time and cpaptalk used to mark it central time. Oh, wait, or is it saving time? And where is Texas again? Oh never mind.

jnk... wrote:Yep. It's the same today, DS. 'Yesterday, today, and tomorrow' is considered in common speech as three separate days, even when only parts of three days are meant when describing the timing and duration of an event. 'Three days and nights' doesn't always mean three full days and nights. So less than 72 hours can still be described that way.

Then again, I don't know if this post will get to you right away, since I'm in eastern time and cpaptalk used to mark it central time. Oh, wait, or is it saving time? And where is Texas again? Oh never mind.

So this time dialation conspiracy occurred way before Einstein came up with his theory of relativity then right? And he was Jewish too right? And math and word stuff will always be weird now right?

DreamStalker wrote:

jnk... wrote:Yep. It's the same today, DS. 'Yesterday, today, and tomorrow' is considered in common speech as three separate days, even when only parts of three days are meant when describing the timing and duration of an event. 'Three days and nights' doesn't always mean three full days and nights. So less than 72 hours can still be described that way.

Then again, I don't know if this post will get to you right away, since I'm in eastern time and cpaptalk used to mark it central time. Oh, wait, or is it saving time? And where is Texas again? Oh never mind.

So this time dialation conspiracy occurred way before Einstein came up with his theory of relativity then right? And he was Jewish too right? And math and word stuff will always be weird now right?

Only if a scientist attempts to interpret vernacular statements by Jewish carpenters and fishermen (and a tax man ) about timing, based on strict 24-hour concepts, without accounting for rounding and local ways of speaking of "days." That will be one seriously frustrated scientist, for sure.

jnk... wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:

jnk... wrote:Yep. It's the same today, DS. 'Yesterday, today, and tomorrow' is considered in common speech as three separate days, even when only parts of three days are meant when describing the timing and duration of an event. 'Three days and nights' doesn't always mean three full days and nights. So less than 72 hours can still be described that way.

Then again, I don't know if this post will get to you right away, since I'm in eastern time and cpaptalk used to mark it central time. Oh, wait, or is it saving time? And where is Texas again? Oh never mind.

So this time dialation conspiracy occurred way before Einstein came up with his theory of relativity then right? And he was Jewish too right? And math and word stuff will always be weird now right?

Only if a scientist attempts to interpret vernacular statements by Jewish carpenters and fishermen (and a tax man ) about timing, based on strict 24-hour concepts, without accounting for rounding and local ways of speaking of "days." That will be one seriously frustrated scientist, for sure.

Well alrighty then ... the way I see it, I'll be back in 2 or 3 days plus or minus 2.5 times the square root of -1 + 2 divided by 4 times the derivative of 2 squared.

49er wrote:

mrbreezeet1 wrote:

49er wrote:

FishLips wrote:Funny.

Bad attitude and disrespect have no other source or cause than the person from whom they originate. There's really no excuse for it.

I was on the phone with HP support this morning, and found myself falling into that behavior. There were plenty of excuses I could use to justify it (bad connection, bad English, following an irrelevant flow-chart script, I'm-smarter-than-him-mentality, etc.). I had to consciously consider the tech as a fellow human being who had his own considerations, constraints, and limitations; and tell myself to chill the fuck out.

Yeah, I tend to get pretty sharp-tongued when annoyed. But if I use my brain for a minute, I can dial it back.

Great points FishLips,

Unfortunately, I didn't with a doctor's office and started yelling at the staff member. I was extremely frustrated that I felt I wasn't being heard and it was just a cumulation of dealing with alot of cr-p. But that isn't an excuse.

Interestingly, when I dealt with this office the other day, I could feel myself starting to lose my temper and by telling the person that, I calmed myself down. Anyway, the staff member got a team leader which was the right move and I got what I needed. In the future, I will ask for her.

Speaking of learning lessons, I used to get very frustrated dealing with Amazon employees in India for various reasons. Thanks to a suggestion by a friend, I automatically ask to be transferred to someone in the States. Works like a charm.

Yeah, but the people in India are Ok, if you give them a chance, and don't assume they're idiots just because they are from. India.
I have ran into complete clues idiots from the USA.

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Let me clarify my points. No, I don't think the folks in India are idiots but what I have found repeatedly in dealing with them is they don't seem to be able to think outside the box when there is a problem whereas the Amazon employees in the US have been able to when I dealt with them.

Oh, I do agree there are clueless idiots in the US. Excellent point.

Yeah, Sounds Good, I just came up with the idiot term myself.
All good,