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The world has always been ran on the idea of survival of the fittest, could be not being the fittest could run in our genes (Family). Maybe XPAP treatment is allowing the survival of a weaker group. Jim

I'm the only one that I know about. Some snorers, but no daytime tiredness. Lucky me.

Any chance you could purchase a fairly inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter to help try and prove a point?
They are on amazon.

Goofproof wrote:The world has always been ran on the idea of survival of the fittest, could be not being the fittest could run in our genes (Family). Maybe XPAP treatment is allowing the survival of a weaker group. Jim

Some people believe that medicine is making us weaker as a species. I prefer to consider the fact that physical strength is giving way to other attributes, some of which we will need in a changing world.

chunkyfrog wrote:

Goofproof wrote:The world has always been ran on the idea of survival of the fittest, could be not being the fittest could run in our genes (Family). Maybe XPAP treatment is allowing the survival of a weaker group. Jim

Some people believe that medicine is making us weaker as a species. I prefer to consider the fact that physical strength is giving way to other attributes, some of which we will need in a changing world.

Such as the ability to breath Ozone and Smog, and eat processed foods one molecule removed from plastic. I hope it kicks in soon. Jim

Dad died at 56 from heart attack. He had a bunch of untreated apnea related health problems. I never heard anyone snore as loud as he did. Wish we knew about apnea back then. Both my sister and I have it. I'm not over weight, 5' 11" 170lbs, so likely I'm not built right.lol There's no doubt in my mind that I would be on the same path as dad if it wasn't for the machine and the people here that helped me out. Many thanks.

My mother had it, I'm sure, although she was never diagnosed. It's terrifying to be a young child, as I was, and hear your parent whooping and gasping to get a breath; I didn't know what was wrong, or how I could help her, just cried out to her "what's wrong? what's wrong?" until she woke up, started breathing properly again and reassured me she was alright. [Clearly she wasn't, as it happened more than once.] She developed insomnia, high blood pressure (treated), obesity, depression, congestive heart failure (treated) and senility; and died at the age of 90 after gently fading away from life. I have experienced a number of those conditions (and been treated), but now I am on APAP, I hope to avoid congestive heart failure in my future and to decrease the occurrence of the others.

I wish there had been more knowledge about apnea available in those long ago years. Mom might have had an opportunity to improve her health and her life. If wishes were horses. . .

Jean

I remember visiting my parents in my 30s and agreeing to stay the night. Both had lazy boy chairs on the opposite sides of the TV. Both fell asleep quickly and I ended up with snoring in stereo. But what stood out was that they both stopped breathing at numerous intervals and that gasping sound we are all cognisant of preceded the start of normal breathing. Neither were overweight so thanks for the OSA Mum and Dad.

Uncle_Bob wrote:Any chance you could purchase a fairly inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter to help try and prove a point?
They are on amazon.

There's an idea, I just need to read up on how to use one

Okie bipap wrote:I finally got my wife on a machine. When we had our last physical, I told our doctor that she would stop breathing while sleeping and would often snore loudly. The doctor scheduled my wife for her sleep study. She is now using my back up machine for a month to see if the central apneas will clear up. If not, they say she will need to get an ASV machine.

Well done, ....and is OSA hereditary in either of your families? proven or suspected.

Pulse ox's usually come with instructions.

My dad has OSA and uses a cpap.
I have asked since i was a baby even as a tummy sleeper and was always constantly tired. However doctors put it down to my extremely low iron levels. OSA was never contemplated especially since at 174cm tall I only weighed 53kg.
My dad suggested i use his machine one night after not being able to get out of bed for the previous 6 days. I only used his machine for 4 hours but had the most energy for the next 2 days it was amazing.
Since then i was diagnosed with OSA and it is hereditary. We suspect my younger brother has it and also my mum but neither will get tested

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Yes, I believe both parents and my older brother had/have it. All snorers. None were officially diagnosed.

Julie wrote:Pulse ox's usually come with instructions.

This is the type of info I was looking for.....

"The study concluded that patients with positive oximeter readings or clinical scores of 3 or higher would indicate the presence of sleep apnea. The researchers also recommended repeating the pulse oximeter measurements over multiple nights to increase the accuracy."

Source: https://www.amperordirect.com/pc/help-p ... apnea.html

Yes, I definitely believe there's a familial connection.

My brother has OSA, I have Complex Apnea, my Uncle had it, and I finally convinced my dad to get tested two years ago. He was diagnosed as "severe" (which was no surprise to me, as I knew he had it and had been bugging him for years to get tested). Got him using a machine, too. I also talked to my niece and nephew (whose mother also has OSA) about the symptoms years ago and told them to get tested if they have any concerns.

FWIW, all the relatives on the hose hail from dad's side of the family, so I do think it's hereditary.