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if you don't clean your hose. it will smell and collect bacteria just from handling it.

Ray4852 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:34 am

if you don't clean your hose. it will smell and collect bacteria just from handling it.

Really???? Mine doesn't smell and any bacteria or whatever that might be on the hose is coming from bacteria and whatever that we have floating around our houses. They will go stick to the hose just as soon as you get done washing. The very air we breathe has all sorts of critters floating around it it all the time anyway.

But if you sleep better and are happy with your cleaning routine....more power to you. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

Ray4852 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:34 am

if you don't clean your hose. it will smell and collect bacteria just from handling it.

The discussion is about the CPAP hose.

You may be confusing that with your "personal" hose. I agree that one should clean his "personal" hose when it starts smelling and after handling.

Just do not handle it too much or your hand will get hairy.

JPB

Stop when you become nearsighted.

Conrad wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:41 am

bmanley wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:41 am

Are there any tricks to cleaning the resmed climate line tubing? Can it be soaked in water and if so how do you get it dried out so the heating wires don't short out? If not what is the best way to clean?

To answer your question, yes, the heated ClimateLine tubing can be soaked in water without shorting out the heating element.

I'm on the other end of the spectrum as most here and I clean my equipment weekly by soaking the tubing (both the heated tube and the tube that connects to the mask), the tub, and the mask in ~ a gallon of warm water, with a cup of white vinegar added, for a couple of hours. I then rinse everything in warm water and hang it to dry in my bedroom.

YMMV

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:45 am

Frequent/daily cleaning exposes corrosible parts to water;
And summons the green goo monster.
Congratulations. You did it to yourself.
Your DME loves you--just not enough to grant you profit sharing.

I've seen/heard the same ole song and dance from you many times here.

What are the corrodible parts of the machine? The metal parts, the plastic parts?

I've been cleaning my cpap parts in the same way for more than 10 years now. I've not worn anything out, nor do I have any corrosion anywhere to be seen.

The green goo monster is summoned by cleaning? Yeah, that makes sense.

A heated hose has exposed metal parts.
Copper oxidizes green--a very pretty green, but undesirable.
Water contains oxygen, which combines with copper in the exposed contacts.
What do you not understand about corrosion/oxidation?
The statue of Liberty is covered with pure copper, which is coated
with a lovely green patina--corrosion.
Nobody scales the outside every night to dry her off.

The weird part was how the green goo bled to the surface without any obvious tear or hole in the fitting. That was I mentioned the slight deformation in the ridge. The tiny lateral hole in the white protruding housing must have been the entry point, if water was the cause. That may be a sensor and/or part of the heating element, but it's just a rectangular piece of copper and maybe some other metal with wires attached to it, I think. The tube was maybe 5 years old, washed at irregular intervals. The green goo seemed tasteless, so I won't use it as a spice for cooking or popcorn topping.

klv329 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:12 pm

The weird part was how the green goo bled to the surface without any obvious tear or hole in the fitting. That was I mentioned the slight deformation in the ridge. The tiny lateral hole in the white protruding housing must have been the entry point, if water was the cause. That may be a sensor and/or part of the heating element, but it's just a rectangular piece of copper and maybe some other metal with wires attached to it, I think. The tube was maybe 5 years old, washed at irregular intervals. The green goo seemed tasteless, so I won't use it as a spice for cooking or popcorn topping.

Mental note not to take food from strangers.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:14 am

A heated hose has exposed metal parts.
Copper oxidizes green--a very pretty green, but undesirable.
Water contains oxygen, which combines with copper in the exposed contacts.
What do you not understand about corrosion/oxidation?
The statue of Liberty is covered with pure copper, which is coated
with a lovely green patina--corrosion.
Nobody scales the outside every night to dry her off.

What part of me stating that I've never had an issue with corrosion in 10 years of exposing my heated hose(s) to water once a week do you not understand?

"What do you not understand about corrosion/oxidation?"

As a retired EE with over 30 years of experience, I would say that I have a fairly good understanding of corrosion and oxidation, as well as electrolysis and the composition of water.

Are you suggesting that the copper in my heated hose contacts are being subjected to the same conditions as the Statue of Liberty and that the contacts are going to develop a patina unless I change my cleaning routine? Please.

You are probably smart enough to dry it off.
The guy with the green goo was not so diligent.

My 2 cents, I’m no expert so take my thoughts as you will;)

As both an allergy and asthma sufferer my biggest concerns when it comes to my cpap hose is moisture which can breed mold, ect.
The biggest problem I’ve found when I’ve tried to clean my hose is that it’s very difficult to remove the excess moisture you introduce into the hose while cleaning the hose. In my mind introducing extra moisture into the hose actually makes it less clean.

I am also asthmatic and mold is one of my big trigger items. I have never had any problem with using my machine, and it has been over five years since I have cleaned my hose. My current hose is around six years old and I don't recall ever washing this one.

colomom wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:07 pm

My 2 cents, I’m no expert so take my thoughts as you will;)

As both an allergy and asthma sufferer my biggest concerns when it comes to my cpap hose is moisture which can breed mold, ect.
The biggest problem I’ve found when I’ve tried to clean my hose is that it’s very difficult to remove the excess moisture you introduce into the hose while cleaning the hose. In my mind introducing extra moisture into the hose actually makes it less clean.

When I first posted I was panicked because I left hose out to dry all day and it was still wet. I asked if it was ok to run mask fit without reistance to try it out. Dunno if I got an answer but decided screw it.

Now I hook it up and run mask fit for about 10 minutes and usu dry by then. Hopefully no damage to humidifier since it’s just blowing hose heated air.

ymmv

colomom wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:07 pm

My 2 cents, I’m no expert so take my thoughts as you will;)

As both an allergy and asthma sufferer my biggest concerns when it comes to my cpap hose is moisture which can breed mold, ect.
The biggest problem I’ve found when I’ve tried to clean my hose is that it’s very difficult to remove the excess moisture you introduce into the hose while cleaning the hose. In my mind introducing extra moisture into the hose actually makes it less clean.

After the weekly soaking of my heated hose(s), along with the tank, in a gallon of warm water with 1 cup of white vinegar. I dry everything off as best I can, which includes twirling the hoses around my head to get as much of the water out as possible. I then hang the hoses up to dry. At bedtime I can still see water droplets inside the hose but in the morning the droplets are gone, and the hose is dry, at least it looks dry and that's good enough for me. I have both the heated hose and the heated tank set to auto.

YMMV

colomom wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:07 pm

As both an allergy and asthma sufferer my biggest concerns when it comes to my cpap hose is moisture which can breed mold, ect.
The biggest problem I’ve found when I’ve tried to clean my hose is that it’s very difficult to remove the excess moisture you introduce into the hose while cleaning the hose. In my mind introducing extra moisture into the hose actually makes it less clean.

CPAP hoses are *not* a mold (or bacteria) breeding ground, simply because of moisture.

For mold to thrive, it needs more than just moisture, it also needs a good source of nutrition and a surface conducive to providing nutrition. Neither of which is provided on the inside of a CPAP hose.

This myth that a little residual moisture makes CPAP devices pathogen breeding grounds is what created SoClean 's success.