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Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:22 pm
by SoCal Guy
OkyDoky wrote:This User's guide might help you.
http://sleepyhead.sourceforge.net/wiki/ ... sers_Guide
To post data this site will help. Please organize your graphs because some are more helpful than others, This link has 3 pages that will tell you how to organize, take a screen shot, and post using Imgur. There are 3 pages so please click on the link at the bottom to go to the next page.
https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead/shorganize
The number, when you click on the events on the left,in (#) is an approximation of the time. Most of the time it is very close. You can see the actual time line on the zoomed in Flow Rate graph on the right.
So I went to imurg website expecting to see a big download button but...I did not, just a bunch of pretty pictures. The pull down menu was no help. How do I down;load the software so I can post my SH data?
Thank you again!!!
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:36 pm
by TaxNerd
Imgur (pronounced "imager") is a sit for hosting pictures on the internet for others to view them.
You can find the sleepyhead software here:
https://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/
In order to post your Data, you need to use sleepy head to download your data, take a screenshot of the data, then post the screenshot image to imgur. There's a great tutorial on how to do this that I've seen, but I don't know where to find it, I'm sure someone will come along and point you in the right directio to the tutorial soon, I hope that helps!
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:37 pm
by SoCal Guy
Progress, yey yey
So I figured out how to upload using imurg. Got my SH data on imurg but
now how do I get it pasted into our forum?
I've tried multiple things none working yet. I'm almost there, please help.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:38 pm
by SoCal Guy
TaxNerd wrote:Imgur (pronounced "imager") is a sit for hosting pictures on the internet for others to view them.
You can find the sleepyhead software here:
https://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/
In order to post your Data, you need to use sleepy head to download your data, take a screenshot of the data, then post the screenshot image to imgur. There's a great tutorial on how to do this that I've seen, but I don't know where to find it, I'm sure someone will come along and point you in the right directio to the tutorial soon, I hope that helps!
already have sleepyhead data. just trying to post it with imurg
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:56 pm
by OkyDoky
Did you read all 3 pages that I talked about above? After organizing, and taking a screen shot, is this
https://sleep.tnet.com/reference/tips/imgur.
That link walks you through with pictures. You do have to sign up at the site to get the options needed.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:05 pm
by SoCal Guy
OkyDoky wrote:Did you read all 3 pages that I talked about above? After organizing, and taking a screen shot, is this
https://sleep.tnet.com/reference/tips/imgur.
That link walks you through with pictures. You do have to sign up at the site to get the options needed.
I got the screen shot saved to my PC. The part about gettin it on our forum will require some more focus on my part.
I will look at the instructions in the link you gave me in the morning.
Thanx!
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:04 am
by NoseKnows
You caught me Uncle_Bob. It's hard to break the habit after 40 years of making viewgraphs.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:34 am
by ChicagoGranny
NoseKnows wrote:You caught me Uncle_Bob. It's hard to break the habit after 40 years of making viewgraphs.
Don't change a thing.
It makes it
easier
for us old folks
to read.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:44 pm
by SoCal Guy
OkyDoky wrote:Okie bipap wrote:If you click on the events tab, it will give you the ability to see every event and the length of the event.
Yes and this may be the easier way to see individual events. The events tab is above the AHI bar. You can also click on the colored bars on the left. When you see the individual events listed, if you click on an event it will take you to it on the graphs on the right.
It took some effort (and the tutorial you provided) but I finally figured out how to post my Sleepyhead.
Now...back to my original question. I'm curious how long I've been holding my breathe for? I think I'm seeing it. When it say's "Open Airway 15 and Obstructive 17" does that mean I didn't breathe for 15 seconds and 17 seconds?
If so, I guess that means the spikes in the flow chart are the events when I'm not breathing, right? Thanks!

Re: noobie first post
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:47 pm
by SoCal Guy
One more question. When the tech was reviewing my Sleep Test, he said I had one event where I didn't breathe for 96 seconds.
That sounds like a very long time to hold your breathe. Is that common or even possible?
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:25 am
by OkyDoky
SoCal Guy wrote:Now...back to my original question. I'm curious how long I've been holding my breathe for? I think I'm seeing it. When it say's "Open Airway 15 and Obstructive 17" does that mean I didn't breathe for 15 seconds and 17 seconds?
If so, I guess that means the spikes in the flow chart are the events when I'm not breathing, right? Thanks!
Under the events tab when you see Open Airway, Obstructive, ect., click on those and it will take you to where each event is numbered and timed when it happened with a number in parenthesis. That number in parenthesis is approximately the length. If you click on one of the events, it will take you to that event on the Flow Rate Graph. There you can see your breathing and look at the timeline below to see how long it was.
You would have to zoom in to see what the spikes were. Probably just bigger breaths especially at the first of the night.
As far as what the tech meant by 96, I don't know. Did he also mention what your O2 level was? But is it possible to not breath for that long? Think of under water training and how long some people can hold their breath.
If you don.t have a copy of your Sleep Study and prescription get one and you will see what it shows. It is your medical record.
Now your screen shot looks good. You have the events CPAP treats under control and I wouldn't worry about the number of clear airway events. If your AHI increases then take another look to see what's causing it to increase but don't obsess over daily numbers just watch the trends.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:00 am
by SoCal Guy
Thank you!
OkyDoky wrote:
As far as what the tech meant by 96, I don't know. Did he also mention what your O2 level was? But is it possible to not breath for that long? Think of under water training and how long some people can hold their breath.
If you don.t have a copy of your Sleep Study and prescription get one and you will see what it shows. It is your medical record.
I realize that breathe can be held by trained people for extended periods. What I was after was whether or not it's likely that a typical person, especially one with a mild diagnosis really went breathless for that long.
I'm curious if it was likely caused by some artifical disturbance to the study as opposed to actually not breathing for that long. It's not a big deal just curiosity to see how severe a problem I really have.
I have the results from the VA sleep study but it's more of a summary by a reviewing doctor. It does provide some stats and my O2 desat was listed as mild. I've never even gotten to talk to a sleep doctor, just respitory techs.
I am scheduled for another sleep study with Kaiser so I'm curious to see what level of detail they provide me and whether I actually get to talk to a doctor. What's normal, testing, tech, then start therapy or do most people actually meet with the sleep doctor before starting therapy. I guess I'll find out when I go to Kaiser...
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:18 pm
by ChicagoGranny
SoCal Guy wrote:One more question. When the tech was reviewing my Sleep Test, he said I had one event where I didn't breathe for 96 seconds.
That sounds like a very long time to hold your breathe. Is that common or even possible?
Common. Gramps first sleep study - he had many apneas over 90 seconds long and coming in clusters. It's a wonder he didn't have a heart attack or stroke before he started using CPAP. Humans can take a lot of abuse.
We have people on here regularly reporting oxygen desats in the 70s (pre-CPAP). To get that low, the apneas have to be long and in quick succession.
I'm not reporting that to put you at ease. Those long apneas are very detrimental to health if left untreated for very long.
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:19 pm
by SoCal Guy
ChicagoGranny wrote:SoCal Guy wrote:One more question. When the tech was reviewing my Sleep Test, he said I had one event where I didn't breathe for 96 seconds.
That sounds like a very long time to hold your breathe. Is that common or even possible?
Common. Gramps first sleep study - he had many apneas over 90 seconds long and coming in clusters. It's a wonder he didn't have a heart attack or stroke before he started using CPAP. Humans can take a lot of abuse.
We have people on here regularly reporting oxygen desats in the 70s (pre-CPAP). To get that low, the apneas have to be long and in quick succession.
I'm not reporting that to put you at ease. Those long apneas are very detrimental to health if left untreated for very long.
Wow, scary. Thanx for clarifying. On the night of my sleep test I was also hooked up to a Holter monitor. I was so uncomfortable just because of all this foreign, scary stuff all over me. I was so relentless that night, I wonder how or if that affected my results. I won't have to wonder for long as I have a sleep test set with Kaiser. I'll be more relaxed this time and so curious to see the results. I'm also hoping I get more feedback and detailed explanation than the VA provided me (a one page summary).
Re: noobie first post
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:24 pm
by ChicagoGranny
SoCal Guy wrote:I was so uncomfortable just because of all this foreign, scary stuff all over me. I was so relentless that night, I wonder how or if that affected my results.
That's a common problem with sleep tests - strange environment, hooked up to many pieces of equipment with someone in another room watching and listening to you all night.
The second night you know more what to expect and can hopefully sleep better.
SoCal Guy wrote:more feedback and detailed explanation than the VA provided me (a one page summary).
If you want comments from the forum, post a copy of the summary here.
Do cover up any identifying fields (name, location, etc.) to maintain your confidentiality.