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Thank you for your responses.

OkyDoky wrote:You stated you have the Dreamstation auto so I would start by downloading Sleepyhead software and looking at your apneas and leaks from your SD card. When you post your good and bad nights we might see where there could be improvement. Here is a link to show you how to get Sleepyhead.https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead

I've been using DreamMapper. I'll look at the other link regarding posting the info. But my bigger concern is finding a mask that actually works for me in regards to comfort, not aggravating my TMJ/Bruxism, and stays on my head. And I will definitely check out the P10.

The Latinist wrote:Just because you are a mouth breather without CPAP doesn't mean you are with it. I was a horrible mouth breather but I have absolutely no mouth breathing issues using a nasal pillows mask. It's worth a try, at least.

I get that and with the Eson I was able to maintain a closed mouth. It seems that since the pressure feels way less with the nose pillows (any size), it's harder to maintain the seal, if that makes sense. I'm noticing that even with taping my mouth, I'm letting air into my mouth it's just not escaping. My teeth feel gross in the morning, dry and a feeling of a coating on them from the air circulating through my mouth.

BlackSpinner wrote:It is leaking. Get it replaced.

Will do. I couldn't see any visible leaks and it's not EVERY night so I was confused. I'm also running out of water overnight with no visible leaking. I wake up with sore sinuses, especially nights where I sleep a long time.

DebiB wrote:

The Latinist wrote:Just because you are a mouth breather without CPAP doesn't mean you are with it. I was a horrible mouth breather but I have absolutely no mouth breathing issues using a nasal pillows mask. It's worth a try, at least.

I get that and with the Eson I was able to maintain a closed mouth. It seems that since the pressure feels way less with the nose pillows (any size), it's harder to maintain the seal, if that makes sense. I'm noticing that even with taping my mouth, I'm letting air into my mouth it's just not escaping. My teeth feel gross in the morning, dry and a feeling of a coating on them from the air circulating through my mouth.

Yeah, I know that feeling. That was every morning for me before I started PAP. I also had problems with chronic white tongue because of it. For me, it was apparently all due to gasping for breath. With an AHI of 96, it meant pretty much constant mouth breathing--when I was breathing, that is. It took only a couple of weeks for my tongue to return to normal after I started therapy. And fortunately I don't mouth breath at all with my nasal mask.

DebiB wrote:Another thing......why does the area UNDER my water reservoir keep collecting water? They very clearly and repeatedly told me not to fill the reservoir past the midline and I never have, but I keep getting water under there and even water spilling out and dripping to the floor sometimes.

are you taking the reservoir out to fill it?

DebiB wrote:Also curious if anyone just boils their own water versus buying distilled water.

boiling the water would be dumb, that would just concentrate the minerals and make the reservoir crust up faster.

DebiB wrote:I've been using DreamMapper. I'll look at the other link regarding posting the info. But my bigger concern is finding a mask that actually works for me in regards to comfort, not aggravating my TMJ/Bruxism, and stays on my head. And I will definitely check out the P10.

some dentist that doctor park interviewed in a podcast says he finds that bruxism is often a side effect of sleep apnea.

palerider wrote:are you taking the reservoir out to fill it?

Some of the time yes, some of the time no.

palerider wrote:boiling the water would be dumb, that would just concentrate the minerals and make the reservoir crust up faster.

Actually, that's how you "make" distilled water. You either boil it or let it sit in an open container at room temperature for a period of time.

palerider wrote:some dentist that doctor park interviewed in a podcast says he finds that bruxism is often a side effect of sleep apnea.

Interesting. I know I've been bruxing since younger than age 10. I don't even remember how young I was when I got my first night guard. I've certainly not noticed C-PAP helping it. Yet.

DebiB wrote:

palerider wrote:are you taking the reservoir out to fill it?

Some of the time yes, some of the time no.

make it 'all of the time yes'

DebiB wrote:

palerider wrote:boiling the water would be dumb, that would just concentrate the minerals and make the reservoir crust up faster.

Actually, that's how you "make" distilled water. You either boil it or let it sit in an open container at room temperature for a period of time.

no, no it's not.

palerider wrote:some dentist that doctor park interviewed in a podcast says he finds that bruxism is often a side effect of sleep apnea.

Interesting. I know I've been bruxing since younger than age 10. I don't even remember how young I was when I got my first night guard. I've certainly not noticed C-PAP helping it. Yet.[/quote]
maybe that's because your cpap isn't working well yet.

DebiB wrote:

palerider wrote:

palerider wrote:boiling the water would be dumb, that would just concentrate the minerals and make the reservoir crust up faster.

Actually, that's how you "make" distilled water. You either boil it or let it sit in an open container at room temperature for a period of time.

That's really, really incorrect. Distilled water is the condensed vapor of evaporated water. By turning the water into vapor, you make it lighter and separate it from the rest of the water and the impurities like dissolved minerals, which are left behind and concentrated in the evaporator. This is done using specialized equipment called a still. When you boil water on the stove or leave it in an open container, some water evaporates, yes, but that vapor is not collected but is lost to the air. What is left in your pot or container is a smaller amount of water with all of the original mineral content. All you've done is create water with more minerals per volume than when you started.

DebiB wrote:
Actually, that's how you "make" distilled water. You either boil it or let it sit in an open container at room temperature for a period of time.


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You are confusing distilling with sterilizing. We don't need sterilized water, we need demineralized water, and you get that by heating and condensing the steam or by reverse osmosis.

LOL! OK, reference the distilled water....I swear I googled it! OK, I clearly didn't read it thoroughly. I hear y'all!!!

DebiB wrote:

Pap-Daddy wrote: Did I miss where you mentioned what pressure you are using?

It's at 15 and ramp is on.

For the suffocating feeling, have you tried not using the ramp? My pressure is at 14.5, and I can't get enough air with the ramp on. Had to have it disabled in the programming, because my cat kept stepping on the button.

MJKelleher wrote: . . . my cat kept stepping on the button.

I recall a most amusing thread, with solutions people have devised
to protect the power button from the purring bed-warmer.

The Latinist wrote:

DebiB wrote:

palerider wrote:

palerider wrote:boiling the water would be dumb, that would just concentrate the minerals and make the reservoir crust up faster.

Actually, that's how you "make" distilled water. You either boil it or let it sit in an open container at room temperature for a period of time.

That's really, really incorrect. Distilled water is the condensed vapor of evaporated water. By turning the water into vapor, you make it lighter and separate it from the rest of the water and the impurities like dissolved minerals, which are left behind and concentrated in the evaporator. This is done using specialized equipment called a still. When you boil water on the stove or leave it in an open container, some water evaporates, yes, but that vapor is not collected but is lost to the air. What is left in your pot or container is a smaller amount of water with all of the original mineral content. All you've done is create water with more minerals per volume than when you started.

Actually she is correct, it's called Rain, too bad she just can't collect it and put in in her tank. Jim

MJKelleher wrote:

DebiB wrote:

Pap-Daddy wrote: Did I miss where you mentioned what pressure you are using?

It's at 15 and ramp is on.

For the suffocating feeling, have you tried not using the ramp? My pressure is at 14.5, and I can't get enough air with the ramp on. Had to have it disabled in the programming, because my cat kept stepping on the button.

I have not since it only feels like that with the Swift. But even once it's reached 15, with the Swift it's not enough pressure to keep my mouth sealed like it was with other masks. I just can't seem to win. Lol

palerider wrote:

DebiB wrote:I've been using DreamMapper. I'll look at the other link regarding posting the info. But my bigger concern is finding a mask that actually works for me in regards to comfort, not aggravating my TMJ/Bruxism, and stays on my head. And I will definitely check out the P10.

some dentist that doctor park interviewed in a podcast says he finds that bruxism is often a side effect of sleep apnea.

I'll agree that sometimes bruxism is a side effect of sleep apnea.

But sometimes it's not. If there are alignment problems in the TMJ they may or may not have anything to do with OSA. In my case I have TMJ joint/teeth alignment problems that are inherently unstable in the sense that the TMJ wants to be in Position "A" and the teeth want to be in Position "B" and the grinding is the result of the battle between the TMJ and the teeth.

I bring this up because my bruxism got far worse after starting xPAP therapy. It may have had something to do with the insomnia, but I suspect that it was more related to the stress caused by the severe crash-and-burn in terms of daytime functioning that I experienced during my first 3 months of PAPing with the S9 AutoSet. That stress really did not resolve until after the insomnia was brought mostly under control and chronic migraines were brought under control. Even so, it still took 6 months of working with the TMJ specialist and 3 more night guards to get the bruxism under control.

robysue wrote:

palerider wrote:

DebiB wrote: TMJ/Bruxism,

some dentist that doctor park interviewed in a podcast says he finds that bruxism is often a side effect of sleep apnea.

I'll agree that sometimes bruxism is a side effect of sleep apnea.

I'll just leave this here: http://doctorstevenpark.com/burhenne so people can listen for themselves and draw their own conclusions.