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SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote: Care to try again? They are incredibly basic.

Nope! Still stupid questions.......however "basic" you think they are.
When you live on fixed incomes, you just try to keep the outgo less than the income.


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Lol. That's LITERALLY the exact situation where understanding the inflation rate is important. Higher inflation rates equate to more 'outgo'.

So...

Why so scared to answer the question?


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There is no (real) answer. They've convoluted the whole situation.
The CPI isn't the TRUE measure of the inflation rate. Just as the U3 isn't the true unemployment rate.

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation

They've devalued our currency. (mainly to make it cheaper to pay off foreign debt)
They've rigged the system of interest rates big banks (don't) have to pay.
They've cut the interest rates that banks pay to their customers. ( a small fraction of what it was prior to April of 2009 )

The whole system is phony.


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Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote: Care to try again? They are incredibly basic.

Nope! Still stupid questions.......however "basic" you think they are.
When you live on fixed incomes, you just try to keep the outgo less than the income.


Den

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Lol. That's LITERALLY the exact situation where understanding the inflation rate is important. Higher inflation rates equate to more 'outgo'.

So...

Why so scared to answer the question?


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There is no (real) answer. They've convoluted the whole situation.
The CPI isn't the TRUE measure of the inflation rate. Just as the U3 isn't the true unemployment rate.

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation

They've devalued our currency. (mainly to make it cheaper to pay off foreign debt)
They've rigged the system of interest rates big banks (don't) have to pay.
They've cut the interest rates that banks pay to their customers. ( a small fraction of what it was prior to April of 2009 )

The whole system is phony.


Den

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Ok.

But the things I buy the most of, food, gas and clothing hasn't increased.

So, not phony to me I guess.


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Gasper62 wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Gasper62 wrote:And what of the Trumpers that are engaging in "poll monitoring/minority voter suppression" ? I guess that's all imaginary, right ? Desperate times call for desperate (cheating) measures. So blatant it isn't even funny anymore.

Happened in 2008.......Democrat party then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black ... ation_case


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Hardy a valid comparison, it's one instance at a single poll location. Trumptards are planning to go out en masse to numerous polls. And.... the lame-brains are hoisting up this instance to counter all the current claims. Nice try, though.

Doesn't matter how many poll locations.
LIE! The only people who are violent are the Liberal/Leftists/Democrats. The Clinton campaign has orchestrated the violence at the Trump rallies.

Yes, we're planning to go to the polls.......TO VOTE!


Den

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Gasper62 wrote:

Elidh wrote:One candidate thinks that over 500,000 dead babies/year is just peachy. No other civil rights issue comes close when these helpless humans have no voice. Makes my decision REAL easy.

Hah. Trumpy has been pro-choice his whole life, only just recently has it become politically expedient for him to claim a rabid pro-life stance/conscience.

True conversions can and do happen. Given the choice of candidates, my conscience dictates I choose one that says he is pro-life vs. the one who proudly states she is pro-abortion and is endorsed by Planned Parenthood.

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote: Care to try again? They are incredibly basic.

Nope! Still stupid questions.......however "basic" you think they are.
When you live on fixed incomes, you just try to keep the outgo less than the income.


Den

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Lol. That's LITERALLY the exact situation where understanding the inflation rate is important. Higher inflation rates equate to more 'outgo'.

So...

Why so scared to answer the question?


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There is no (real) answer. They've convoluted the whole situation.
The CPI isn't the TRUE measure of the inflation rate. Just as the U3 isn't the true unemployment rate.

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation

They've devalued our currency. (mainly to make it cheaper to pay off foreign debt)
They've rigged the system of interest rates big banks (don't) have to pay.
They've cut the interest rates that banks pay to their customers. ( a small fraction of what it was prior to April of 2009 )

The whole system is phony.


Den

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Ok.

But the things I buy the most of, food, gas and clothing hasn't increased.

So, not phony to me I guess.


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Has for ME. Don't know where you're getting your stuff, but mine are more expensive. Add medications, insurance, utilities and a whole bunch of other things (probably not included in the gubberment numbers) and my expenses HAVE gone up. And, the interest rates/income on my money in the banks is a fraction of what it was.


Den

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Elidh wrote:

Gasper62 wrote:

Elidh wrote:One candidate thinks that over 500,000 dead babies/year is just peachy. No other civil rights issue comes close when these helpless humans have no voice. Makes my decision REAL easy.

Hah. Trumpy has been pro-choice his whole life, only just recently has it become politically expedient for him to claim a rabid pro-life stance/conscience.

True conversions can and do happen. Given the choice of candidates, my conscience dictates I choose one that says he is pro-life vs. the one who proudly states she is pro-abortion and is endorsed by Planned Parenthood.

Kind of a fine line between "abortion" and "murder" isn't it?
They think it's OK to "murder" a fetus as long as it hasn't exited the birth canal.
Disgusting!


Den

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Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote: Nope! Still stupid questions.......however "basic" you think they are.
When you live on fixed incomes, you just try to keep the outgo less than the income.


Den

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Lol. That's LITERALLY the exact situation where understanding the inflation rate is important. Higher inflation rates equate to more 'outgo'.

So...

Why so scared to answer the question?


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There is no (real) answer. They've convoluted the whole situation.
The CPI isn't the TRUE measure of the inflation rate. Just as the U3 isn't the true unemployment rate.

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

You have:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation

They've devalued our currency. (mainly to make it cheaper to pay off foreign debt)
They've rigged the system of interest rates big banks (don't) have to pay.
They've cut the interest rates that banks pay to their customers. ( a small fraction of what it was prior to April of 2009 )

The whole system is phony.


Den

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Ok.

But the things I buy the most of, food, gas and clothing hasn't increased.

So, not phony to me I guess.


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Has for ME. Don't know where you're getting your stuff, but mine are more expensive. Add medications, insurance, utilities and a whole bunch of other things (probably not included in the gubberment numbers) and my expenses HAVE gone up. And, the interest rates/income on my money in the banks is a fraction of what it was.


Den

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Ok. So we've gotten to a basket we can compare. Gas. Food. Clothing.


I'll take a peek in the am on how much those have increased.

Deal?

Lemme guess. Something something rigged?


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Getting back on the original subject........

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -accurate/


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If I were American I would vote Democrat but that being said the vote is close and that tells us half the population are not happy campers.(no easy cure or formula)
"Gosh"even loyal republican's like the Bushes are not even voting for the party that made them presidents.(spectator in the background....all the best)

We haven't gotten to the point of eating cat food but our food budget is not like it once was. We eat way less meat and fresh fruits and vegetables. Now we eat way more beans and soups. We are not going hungry but we ate better just a few years ago.

Wulfman... wrote:Getting back on the original subject........

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -accurate/


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Lol. Breitbart.

Looking forward to tomorrow. Here's the current CPI basket

FOOD AND BEVERAGES (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
APPAREL (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
TRANSPORTATION (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
MEDICAL CARE (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
RECREATION (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions);
EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories);
OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses).
Also included within these major groups are various government-charged user fees, such as water and sewerage charges, auto registration fees, and vehicle tolls. In addition, the CPI includes taxes (such as sales and excise taxes) that are directly associated with the prices of specific goods and services. However, the CPI excludes taxes (such as income and Social Security taxes) not directly associated with the purchase of consumer goods and services.


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SleepyMcgee wrote:
Ok. So we've gotten to a basket we can compare. Gas. Food. Clothing.


I'll take a peek in the am on how much those have increased.

Deal?

Lemme guess. Something something rigged?


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One of the problems is that the gubberment picks and chooses what to use when it figures "inflation" and consumer price indexes. They include some things and exclude others (which may make the number worse)......yeah, it's rigged.

But, many of those things DO fluctuate in price......up, down, all over the place. Many times, it can vary greatly from communities in one area/state to communities in other areas/states. Depends on supply and demand and availability. SOME things still do work in those ways yet......"capitalism".
In areas like "tourist" destinations, the prices of fuel go up in the Summer.......and stay there as long as they can get away with it (I know that first-hand). As far as food goes, we hardly ever buy anything unless it's on sale and then we stock up......and eventually we can buy almost everything that way.
Clothing.......stores would go out of business waiting for my business in that category. My wife on the other hand........
Nah, she's pretty frugal, too.
People just need to find ways of keeping their expenses down in these times.


Den

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Cannuck 1 wrote:If I were American I would vote Democrat but that being said the vote is close and that tells us half the population are not happy campers.(no easy cure or formula)
"Gosh"even loyal republican's like the Bushes are not even voting for the party that made them presidents.(spectator in the background....all the best)

I have some friends in Alberta who hope Trump wins. They also don't like your current PM.

The Bush family.........


Den

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my apologies for participating in the muck raking, it was a mistake, and I'm done...

it's a total waste of time in any event.

SleepyMcgee wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Getting back on the original subject........

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -accurate/


Den

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Lol. Breitbart.

Looking forward to tomorrow. Here's the current CPI basket

FOOD AND BEVERAGES (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
APPAREL (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
TRANSPORTATION (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
MEDICAL CARE (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
RECREATION (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions);
EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories);
OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses).
Also included within these major groups are various government-charged user fees, such as water and sewerage charges, auto registration fees, and vehicle tolls. In addition, the CPI includes taxes (such as sales and excise taxes) that are directly associated with the prices of specific goods and services. However, the CPI excludes taxes (such as income and Social Security taxes) not directly associated with the purchase of consumer goods and services.


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You'd better read the article. It is full of links to all the LIBERAL publications. (that was the point of the article)


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