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I saw an extra hand at 2:29.

So Well wrote:Obama Bitch Slaps Hillary in South Carolina ---- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3JHexXljk

Wow, 2 Proven Liars debating! That was probably George Soros' hand you saw, he pulls all the Dem. puppet strings.

nanwilson wrote:Wow, haven't read this thread in awhile.... some folks are certainly getting their knickers in a knot and getting hotter and hotter under the collar with each post. Neither of these two candidates should win, but I guess that you don't have a choice.... and its not going to end with a winner and a loser. If Trump wins, heaven help everyone, if Hilary wins, Trump will not let go and will keep up the rants to have her impeached.................NO WINNER in this race, sorry to say. We in Canada are stuck with a narsistic (sorry spelling), spoon fed, brat, that we will not be able to get rid of the four more years and left with debt up to our eye balls All he does is take selfies of himself and give away more and more of our money to other countries, while leaving our own poor out in the cold.
Good luck
Nan

Yeah, when I saw that guy voted in, I thought OMG! You got just what I thought you would, Obama on steroids, selling out your country. And we're also up to our eyeballs in debt which won't be made any better by electing Hillary Clinton who believes in open borders. Who's going to pay for that I wonder. They will take more from the wage earners. I only see our standard of living getting ever closer to 3rd World Country.

Donald Trumps personal weakness has been heavily reported by our media, especially in the past couple of weeks. But to me, these attention-hungry women they dug up from way in the past, it's all irrelevant. I'd like to know how much they're being paid to put themselves out there to flap their mouths on TV many yrs later. And who didn't already know that about Trump as a wealthy businessman and celebrity.
Hillary's wealthy supporters wait until now to expose the tape, then the women.

Trump is a capitalist and the U.S. as we know it is a capitalist country with less gov't intrusion. I believe in capitalism more than socialism or communism. I believe Trump/Pence and their advisors is our only hope to restore our deteriorating cities and bring back or create decent paying jobs with benefits for our own citizens. Obama has worked hard at ripping this country apart, divide and conquer. Many of our own (including vets) are being neglected while hordes are brought in from countries of a very different culture in the name of humanity. Young males crossing our Southern borders are being recruited into gangs. We don't need more anger and violence. We don't need leaders who will take away our freedom of speech and take away our means of protecting ourselves against violent offenders. The illegal drugs being brought in will eventually destroy too many of our young people, etc, etc. I have no confidence in Hillary Clinton's ability to fix all this. What has she accomplished for us in gov't so far? Nothing!

I totally agree with the last 2 posts. Hillary and the Oligarchs like George Soros plan to take the country toward a form of socialist totalitarianism.

Personally, I think Obama qualifies as the biggest liar and worst President the country ever had. And I actually had high hopes for him in the beginning, until I discovered who really owned him - the Establishment and legacy money. Hillary is the same.

One of the first things Trump wants to do is to fire Janet Yellen. Here is a thoughtful article describing Janet Yellen as much as admitting that the Federal Reserve does not understand why the economic recovery out of the 2008 financial crisis NEVER HAPPENED.

http://www.alhambrapartners.com/2016/10 ... are-doing/

Actually, I don't think it matters if Trump does not win the election. He has already succeeded in destroying Hillary's presidency.

Does anyone else find it odd that these "gropees" never reported or complained about these unwanted advances. He was a rich and powerful man back then, yet none of them complained/extorted. Gotta wonder why suddenly they appeared after all this time...

LinkC wrote:Does anyone else find it odd that these "gropees" never reported or complained about these unwanted advances. He was a rich and powerful man back then, yet none of them complained/extorted. Gotta wonder why suddenly they appeared after all this time...

I find it odd that you're so uninformed on the subject. Plus, it's way more important now, in order to prevent this clueless (groping) buffoon from blowing up the entire world.


http://people.com/politics/people-write ... d-sources/

Closed minds are closed minds and want to stay that way... none seem to recognize the parallels to l930's rhetoric from Mussolini and Hitler, none want to learn and apparently don't care. They choose to believe, like blind, dumb dogs following their ever more out of control, paranoid, raving 'leader' that a magical future awaits. Be careful what you wish for... you're going to need all the help you can get, but it will probably be too late.

A bunch of old farts, that's all there is up in Washington, these old antics and traditions need to just die off, out with the old, in with the new. It's nature's way.

I seriously doubt that it matters any longer who thinks what about Trump. The handwriting is clearly on the wall for all to see. I thank G-d there are more and more people who have chosen not to be blinded by the likes of Donald Trump and his ilk. I shudder to think what a Trump presidency might have looked like.

Ruinednose wrote:A bunch of old farts, that's all there is up in Washington, these old antics and traditions need to just die off, out with the old, in with the new. It's nature's way.

Maybe if we could teach them to walk around with their pants pulled half down to there knees, hold a gun sideways to shoot, sell drugs on the street, and shoot up the profit, don't forget beat up your girl friend and pimp her out. Kind of makes Bill and Trump start to look better.... Not! Jim

LinkC wrote:Does anyone else find it odd that these "gropees" never reported or complained about these unwanted advances. He was a rich and powerful man back then, yet none of them complained/extorted. Gotta wonder why suddenly they appeared after all this time...

Yes I agree with this. I think it is all political - The Establishment and media is determined to crush Trump because he could pose a threat to their "gravy train". There is a lot more evidence that Bill Clinton actually committed rape and Hillary, who is supposed to be so pro-woman rights, threatened these victims to keep quiet about it.

But this is what frightens me the most about the rigged election and political process:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... -power-con

PEF wrote:

LinkC wrote:
But this is what frightens me the most about the rigged election and political process:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... -power-con

And what frightens me the most is people who believe in these web sites

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

I have been subscribing to what mainstream media calls "conspiracy theory" for a long time. Back in 2003, the "conspiracy theorists" were talking about "derivatives trading" by banks and predicted financial catastrophe. Well, it was all true and we got it in 2008. The entire shadow banking system collapsed. Now we are on the verge of an even worse financial collapse because the Federal Reserve and other central banks keep trying to bail it out to the tune of creating tens of trillions of bogus credit. This will not turn out well.

More and more non-establishment types are coming over to our side. Most of it turns out to be true.

PEF wrote:I have been subscribing to what mainstream media calls "conspiracy theory" for a long time. Back in 2003, the "conspiracy theorists" were talking about "derivatives trading" by banks and predicted financial catastrophe. Well, it was all true and we got it in 2008. The entire shadow banking system collapsed. Now we are on the verge of an even worse financial collapse because the Federal Reserve and other central banks keep trying to bail it out to the tune of creating tens of trillions of bogus credit. This will not turn out well.

More and more non-establishment types are coming over to our side. Most of it turns out to be true.

Conspiracies are fun to read about (especially when they include the illuminati!) but people should be very careful. They are, in almost all cases, not reality. They do usually have enough 'truth' contained in them to draw in that sliver of the population who are willing to suspend obvious contradictions in order to 'believe'.

FWIW and not that I have any belief (not even a conspiratorial one that I'd change your mind) derivatives trading did not create the financial collapse thought it certainly played a role (there's that grain of truth). Improper bundling of subprime loans market exacerbated an economic downturn. This downturn was further fueled by Americans overextending themselves and getting involved in complex loans (balloon loans etc).

I always found it interesting those who believe the govt to be completely inept are also the ones who believe our govt is, at the same time, smart enough to orchestrate global conspiracies in complete secrecy for decades (theres that obvious contradiction).

+100

At least one person here was paying attention and did not just spout off from spurious 'journals'!