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No. The theory now is that low O2 is the culprit and thus the O2 concentrator. It arrives Tuesday so the research continues then.jnk... wrote:Is there a cause of the central events that is known?bluetrout wrote: . . . My main problem seems to be Central events.
well, this is the first I've ever heard of a theory that too little oxygen decreases the respiratory drive...bluetrout wrote:No. The theory now is that low O2 is the culprit and thus the O2 concentrator. It arrives Tuesday so the research continues then.jnk... wrote:Is there a cause of the central events that is known?bluetrout wrote: . . . My main problem seems to be Central events.
The fact that the brain shuts down breathing, a central event, doesn't make sense either and the cause for that is unknown. It may be that a baseline low O2 level contributes to that happening. Thus raising the O2 level may prevent it.palerider wrote:well, this is the first I've ever heard of a theory that too little oxygen decreases the respiratory drive...bluetrout wrote:No. The theory now is that low O2 is the culprit and thus the O2 concentrator. It arrives Tuesday so the research continues then.jnk... wrote:Is there a cause of the central events that is known?bluetrout wrote: . . . My main problem seems to be Central events.
and it may be sunspots, and aliens in their UFOs too.bluetrout wrote:The fact that the brain shuts down breathing, a central event, doesn't make sense either and the cause for that is unknown. It may be that a baseline low O2 level contributes to that happening. Thus raising the O2 level may prevent it.palerider wrote:well, this is the first I've ever heard of a theory that too little oxygen decreases the respiratory drive...bluetrout wrote:No. The theory now is that low O2 is the culprit and thus the O2 concentrator. It arrives Tuesday so the research continues then.jnk... wrote:Is there a cause of the central events that is known?bluetrout wrote: . . . My main problem seems to be Central events.
+1palerider wrote:well, this is the first I've ever heard of a theory that too little oxygen decreases the respiratory drive...bluetrout wrote:No. The theory now is that low O2 is the culprit and thus the O2 concentrator. It arrives Tuesday so the research continues then.jnk... wrote:Is there a cause of the central events that is known?bluetrout wrote: . . . My main problem seems to be Central events.
Just make sure you have some doctors who know something about Obstructive AND Central Sleep Apnea.bluetrout wrote:palerider,
I know I'm taking a wild chance here but I'll go with the advice I'm getting from my doctors. Guess you can't be convinced but you certainly can be ignored. I'll bet this is not new territory for you.
you do whatever you want to, sweetie, and I hope it works for you... just don't be too surprised if it doesn't.bluetrout wrote:palerider,
I know I'm taking a wild chance here but I'll go with the advice I'm getting from my doctors. Guess you can't be convinced but you certainly can be ignored. I'll bet this is not new territory for you.
You're confusing breathing O2 or CO2 with the blood oxygen content. Central Sleep Apnea is neurological in nature.bluetrout wrote:Central sleep apnea (CSA) or central sleep apnea syndrome (CSAS) is a sleep-related disorder in which the effort to breathe is diminished or absent,
typically for 10 to 30 seconds either intermittently or in cycles, and is usually associated with a reduction in blood oxygen saturation.
Central sleep apnea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_s ... aWikipedia
Notice the reduction in O2 saturation being mentioned. I also found several other sites via GOOGLE with longer explanations, etc.
They all mention the cause of Central apnea is unknown.
you're getting cause and effect backwards. the reduction in 02 saturation is *because you're not breathing during the apneas.*. (talk about "a little knowledge...")bluetrout wrote:Central sleep apnea (CSA) or central sleep apnea syndrome (CSAS) is a sleep-related disorder in which the effort to breathe is diminished or absent,
typically for 10 to 30 seconds either intermittently or in cycles, and is usually associated with a reduction in blood oxygen saturation.
Central sleep apnea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_s ... aWikipedia
Notice the reduction in O2 saturation being mentioned. I also found several other sites via GOOGLE with longer explanations, etc.
The whole thing is a fine balance. I'm listening to my pulmonologist and the 2 pulmomologists who conferred with her on this. When posters share their experience that can be valuable. When posters share opinions, that enters a sketchy area of unknown credentials and motives. Den, you sound solid to me but I don't agree with your conclusions when they differ from my docs. I'll report back when I have some experience with this. Thanks for your input.Wulfman... wrote: You're confusing breathing O2 or CO2 with the blood oxygen content. Central Sleep Apnea is neurological in nature.
Quite often, getting too much oxygen (breathing it) can decrease the drive to breathe. It can be a fine balance.
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See how long you can hold your breath before you feel the need to BREATHE. It may not be exactly the same thing, but it's close.bluetrout wrote:The whole thing is a fine balance. I'm listening to my pulmonologist and the 2 pulmomologists who conferred with her on this. When posters share their experience that can be valuable. When posters share opinions, that enters a sketchy area of unknown credentials and motives. Den, you sound solid to me but I don't agree with your conclusions when they differ from my docs. I'll report back when I have some experience with this. Thanks for your input.Wulfman... wrote: You're confusing breathing O2 or CO2 with the blood oxygen content. Central Sleep Apnea is neurological in nature.
Quite often, getting too much oxygen (breathing it) can decrease the drive to breathe. It can be a fine balance.
Den
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just to expound on that (since I figure you know it) when you hold your breath, it isn't the lack of oxygen that makes you need to breath, it's the buildup of carbon dioxide in your blood...Wulfman... wrote:See how long you can hold your breath before you feel the need to BREATHE. It may not be exactly the same thing, but it's close.