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Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:29 pm
by Thatgirl
Goofproof wrote:Part due to this thread I am making a better effort to get closer to control. My A1C is 7.8, I use avg of 200 to 210 units of insulin fast acting and NPH as needed.

I eat very little in the morning, too large a dinner, snack in the evening with T.V., eat a small meal before bed (2 am). I find in bed lately in the middle of my night my sugar goes way too low, luckily it tends to wake me up, when it happens I use candy to counter act the low, the result is usually a roller coaster, then high readings the next day.

I am making a effort to turn off the eating before bed, and of course cutting back on the night insulin, I've been at it 4 days now, am seeing some good 3 out of 4 days. I think for ME, it's worth keeping up. My fears are going too low and not waking up. 3 out of my last 4 days morning readings were in the low 60's, for me that's in my danger zone, I'm hoping the way I feel will adjust to make it more like normal. Jim
NPH insulin is very hard to get control with and is notorious for its steep peaks and troughs, causing those middle of the might lows.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:30 am
by SewTired
Janknitz wrote:
Jay Aitchsee wrote:
Janknitz wrote:When did I ever say a low or no carb diet "cures" Type II??? This quote is attributed to me, but as far as I recall, it's nothing I ever said. I searched this phrase. It didn't come from ME.
Sloppy original quoting by SewTired. DreamStalker said it, top of page 2.
But it's attributed to ME.
Jan, apparently I snafued on the technical aspect of quoting. I probably accidentally deleted one of the required bracketed things. You'll note in my response, however, I attributed to Dreamweaver and not you. Sorry about the confusion.

Also, to others, I didn't mean to cause a stir regarding organic food. My point, not clearly made, is that whether your food is organic or not will not make a bean of difference on your diabetes since the issue is unrelated. There's a lot of claim that organic food, in its own right, will improve diabetes and that just isn't true. I have absolutely nothing against food grown with fewer pesticides or those who budget to buy it.

On the other hand, there is something useful about gluten-free and diabetes because a large number of diabetics appear to develop gluten sensitivity. This is LIKELY due to the fact that all blood vessels are affected by diabetes and that includes the intestines. It's rather complex science according to my gastroenterologist. Some doctors who have looked at this found that after 2-3 years of gluten free eating, those diabetics who are affected can often return to eating gluten again. A lot of problems associated with metformin have actually turned out to be gluten sensitivity, for instance. So, if you've had chronic problems with digestion, do give it a try for a couple of months to see if you have any improvement.

As mentioned, my BIL, after 2 years of gluten-free eating, has been able to return to eating gluten. Many of the digestive issues he had have not returned either after 6 months, so this is great! His glucose control has also remained good, while before the gluten-free experiment, it kept creeping up despite being underweight. That is why I pass on the information.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:21 am
by chunkyfrog
We are lucky here, having two Aldi's and four natural grocery stores in town,
to say nothing of the farmers' market opening very soon.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:25 am
by BlackSpinner
chunkyfrog wrote:We are lucky here, having two Aldi's and four natural grocery stores in town,
to say nothing of the farmers' market opening very soon.
At the end of the summer I will walk out the back door and pick mine out of the garden. Later I will walk down stairs to the freezer to get the rest of the harvest.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:29 am
by lilly747
SewTired wrote:Also, to others, I didn't mean to cause a stir regarding organic food. My point, not clearly made, is that whether your food is organic or not will not make a bean of difference on your diabetes since the issue is unrelated. There's a lot of claim that organic food, in its own right, will improve diabetes and that just isn't true. I have absolutely nothing against food grown with fewer pesticides or those who budget to buy it.

On the other hand, there is something useful about gluten-free and diabetes because a large number of diabetics appear to develop gluten sensitivity. This is LIKELY due to the fact that all blood vessels are affected by diabetes and that includes the intestines. It's rather complex science according to my gastroenterologist. Some doctors who have looked at this found that after 2-3 years of gluten free eating, those diabetics who are affected can often return to eating gluten again. A lot of problems associated with metformin have actually turned out to be gluten sensitivity, for instance. So, if you've had chronic problems with digestion, do give it a try for a couple of months to see if you have any improvement.

As mentioned, my BIL, after 2 years of gluten-free eating, has been able to return to eating gluten. Many of the digestive issues he had have not returned either after 6 months, so this is great! His glucose control has also remained good, while before the gluten-free experiment, it kept creeping up despite being underweight. That is why I pass on the information.
....+1

Glad to see this thread get back on topic....like you said, it's not about organic vs non-organic......It's about Blood Sugar.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:18 am
by chunkyfrog
BlackSpinner wrote: . . .
At the end of the summer I will walk out the back door and pick mine out of the garden. Later I will walk down stairs to the freezer to get the rest of the harvest.
Our garden was flooded last spring. For a while it smelled like sewage. We did not plant greens last year.
Just tomatoes and peppers. Half of the peach tree died. Luckily, the asparagus is on higher ground.
As are the strawberries, which are ready to deluge us and all nearby wildlife with sweet juicy fruit.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:33 pm
by BlackSpinner
chunkyfrog wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote: . . .
At the end of the summer I will walk out the back door and pick mine out of the garden. Later I will walk down stairs to the freezer to get the rest of the harvest.
Our garden was flooded last spring. For a while it smelled like sewage. We did not plant greens last year.
Just tomatoes and peppers. Half of the peach tree died. Luckily, the asparagus is on higher ground.
As are the strawberries, which are ready to deluge us and all nearby wildlife with sweet juicy fruit.
Yes better leave it fallow for a year. Sewage has heavy metals in it that will need to get out of the soil.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:27 pm
by BlackSpinner

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:39 pm
by Chevie
Gasper62 wrote:I reject your "facts". You don't happen to be a Monsanto employee, do you ? The FDA and various other organizations have practiced blowing smoke and falsehoods up American's asses for as long as they've existed. I'll believe the board certified doctor if you don't mind. Thanks for your efforts, though.

http://time.com/3738069/fda-dairy-farme ... tics-milk/
Did you read the link you posted? It did not say conventional dairy farmers treat their cattle with banned antibiotics. It could just as easily be organic dairy farmers that use this subterfuge. In fact, it is much more likely that they do because of the way organic is defined. Believe me, organic farmers are more crooked as a class than conventional farmers. The payoff is higher for organic.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:44 pm
by Chevie
Thatgirl wrote:Thankfully, there is a local farm co-op that sells hormone and antibiotic free milk at a reasonable price.
There is no such thing as hormone-free milk. If it doesn't have hormones in it, it isn't milk. As an aside, your body is continuously swimming with hormones. If not, you are dead.

As far as antibiotic-free milk, you should read the links Strangler posted. All milk sold in the U.S. is antibiotic-free.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:04 pm
by Gasper62
"All milk sold in the U.S. is antibiotic-free" uh huh, right.....

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:44 pm
by palerider
Gasper62 wrote:"All milk sold in the U.S. is antibiotic-free" uh huh, right.....
I don't suppose you've tried googling it? at any rate, this is off topic for this off topic thread.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:15 pm
by Gasper62
palerider wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:"All milk sold in the U.S. is antibiotic-free" uh huh, right.....
I don't suppose you've tried googling it? at any rate, this is off topic for this off topic thread.

I only believe approx. half of what I am actually able to see....considerably less of what I read....... ESPECIALLY reader edited WIKI Googlage.

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:27 pm
by palerider
Gasper62 wrote:
palerider wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:"All milk sold in the U.S. is antibiotic-free" uh huh, right.....
I don't suppose you've tried googling it? at any rate, this is off topic for this off topic thread.

I only believe approx. half of what I am actually able to see....considerably less of what I read....... ESPECIALLY reader edited WIKI Googlage.
and yet, you seem to be convinced that milk is laden with antibiotics... *ponder*

Re: Somewhat OT/Eating to your meter

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:30 pm
by Chevie
Gasper62 wrote:I only believe approx. half of what I am actually able to see
You seem to believe the wrong half.