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Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:47 pm
by Noctuary
I bought one at the grocery store; I probably should have ordered a more expensive one. This one looks kind of stiff.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:49 pm
by 70sSanO
I bought a couple of them at RIte Aid. I suppose you can try different ones.

Keep in mind this does not replace xPAP.

You have to use it with xPAP.

John

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:32 am
by Noctuary
70sSanO wrote:I bought a couple of them at RIte Aid. I suppose you can try different ones.

Keep in mind this does not replace xPAP.

You have to use it with xPAP.

John
The one I bought was really stiff. I'm glad I didn't wear or or I may have gotten even less sleep last night.

If there's one thing I've learned from all this is to not give in to hope, so I'm not in a hurry to buy another one.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:08 am
by Julie
"not to give in to hope"

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:14 am
by jilliansue
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Noctuary wrote:Would one of those whiplash collars work? I've seen them at the grocery store.
KISS.

http://www.amazon.com/Cervical-Collar-S ... cal+collar
Chicago Granny, thank you for that link! I bought a cervical collar locally and could not sleep with it, it was too wide. So I am going to order the narrower one off of Amazon and give that a try.

Thanks again!

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:17 am
by ChicagoGranny
Noctuary wrote:The one I bought was really stiff. I'm glad I didn't wear or or I may have gotten even less sleep last night.

If there's one thing I've learned from all this is to not give in to hope, so I'm not in a hurry to buy another one.
About hurrying, you rushed out and bought the wrong collar. It would have been better to make sure you were getting one similar to the ones recommended on the forum.

Keep your receipt and return that one on your next trip.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:19 am
by ChicagoGranny
jilliansue wrote:Chicago Granny, thank you for that link! I bought a cervical collar locally and could not sleep with it, it was too wide. So I am going to order the narrower one off of Amazon and give that a try.

Thanks again!
I probably need to buy a wider one to experiment with. A wider might keep my mouth closed all night.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:44 am
by Noctuary
Julie wrote:"not to give in to hope"
Ain't I a ray of sunlight?

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:46 am
by Noctuary
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Noctuary wrote:The one I bought was really stiff. I'm glad I didn't wear or or I may have gotten even less sleep last night.

If there's one thing I've learned from all this is to not give in to hope, so I'm not in a hurry to buy another one.
About hurrying, you rushed out and bought the wrong collar. It would have been better to make sure you were getting one similar to the ones recommended on the forum.

Keep your receipt and return that one on your next trip.
Yes, I purchased it before I saw your post. Its really stiff.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:55 am
by ChicagoGranny
Noctuary wrote: Its really stiff.
Is it the hard plastic type?

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:49 pm
by chunkyfrog
Using a soft cervical collar seems to run 180 degrees from
theLankyLefty's video on aerophagia. Comment?

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:26 pm
by OkyDoky
chunkyfrog wrote:Using a soft cervical collar seems to run 180 degrees from
theLankyLefty's video on aerophagia. Comment?
Yes and I disagree with the LeftyLanky video on tucking your chin. My reasoning for this is the airway sits in front of the esophagus and by putting your chin down you make an easier access to your esophagus. While swallowing may be more difficult gulping air is not the only cause. If you have a weak sphincter a high pressure may cause air to enter your stomach. An airway in a neutral position would be better. A soft cervical collar may help this. They also seem to agree it's best to keep a neutral airway here. wiki/index.php/Aerophagia

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:53 pm
by Mopheus
70sSanO wrote:Really interesting podcast. I have always thought that there is a connection between alzheimers/dementia and OSA/UARS. While the podcast didn't specifically state that relationship it did provide areas of the brain that are impacted and the hippocampus seems to relate to memory loss and the onset of dementia.

However, I was very disappointed in the use of exercising the upper airway muscles to reduce OSA. There was even the mention of the use of a didgeridoo. I realize that these are experts in this field, but while these exercises may help with some of the severity of OSA, I think too many people will quickly jump on some alternative treatment to avoid the use of xPAP. Exercise in conjunction with xPAP is probably a better way to present the situation.
I was going to send her the link, but I'm sure all she will hear will be doing exercises and she will drive 50 miles to buy a didgeridoo.
John
I've played didgeridoo for 20 years, long before the apnea.
I've been to OZ three times to learn in the bush from the best players in the world.
I can safely say didj playing is not going to affect your apnea.

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:23 pm
by ChicagoGranny
Mopheus wrote:I can safely say didj playing is not going to affect your apnea.
One anecdote does not make certainty or science.

http://www.bmj.com/content/332/7536/266

Re: Brain Damage and Sleep Apnea: Dr. Ronald Harper

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:23 pm
by Mopheus
Nope