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Gasper62 wrote:

Enchanter wrote:

Gasper62 wrote:

Enchanter wrote:

Sonnyboy wrote:Enchanter joined the forum in April 2015 and has 703 posts.
Enchanter is asking questions about events.
It's time for Enchanter to step up and post sleepyhead charts.

Except with the Mask, I don't sleep (NONE) so what difference would it make?

Why is it impossible for some to understand?

What I don't understand is......... what exactly you want/expect from the membership at this point. I imagine that most here have grown very weary of your NUMEROUS threads/posts. I have ! If you can't do this therapy, there's not much else to discuss. (IMO) I doubt that a pity party held in your honor is too likely benefit anyone. Understand ?

Because you people make me feel like I'm a failure and it's my fault even though I have tried and am trying. You make it seem like I'm just unwilling and am lazy and have not tried hard enough.

Well, no one can conquer this obstacle for you, no one here will be able to wear the mask for you. That is yours alone to succeed or fail at. Nothing said here is gonna' change your outlook at this point. "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda

There is no try? What the hell are u talking about? Same shit. I have been doing, I have been wearing. What the hell has this place come to?

Please do not get philosophical with me. It's not needed.

We GET that you've tried. And not had good luck. And now we have nothing more to offer that hasn't already been offered or suggested. Your being angry with us because you can't make it work is unreasonable. We can't do it for you after all.

"There is no try? What the hell are u talking about? Same shit. I have been doing, I have been wearing. What the hell has this place come to ?"


It's senses, mainly.

For those that can't tolerate Cpap, What is the reason?[/quote]

I don't think anyone knows the reason why it would work for one person and not another just like why one person might be allergic to something and millions of others aren't. You might just need to find an alternative to CPAP if you feel you have given it your all and it hasn't worked. There are alternatives out there, whether they work or not I don't know. I still struggle with the CPAP but have given up completely yet. Am going again in the morning to get fitted for another mask.
I was just looking on the internet and found this site, check it out.

http://www.proventtherapy.com/about-provent.php

If I had not tried, and made it work, I would have been a disappointment to myself,
and a poor example to my family. I never minded being called a tomboy; but a sissy---NEVER!
My internal voices can be loud.
---But my voices have driven me to accomplish more than I ever expected.

I don't believe Provent is the answer for E. It's problematic even for people with no trouble on Cpap (who use it for travelling) and is certainly not a long term answer. I suggested biofeedback, self hypnosis, etc. but have heard nothing about trying them - apparently complaining is easier.

Until you put away the excuses, you aren't ready to try. Only you can decide if you can do anything, you must make the decision to succeed, telling the world and yourself you are trying, or have tried, doesn't get the job done.
First you must be true to yourself. Nothing can be accomplished if your lying to yourself!
YODA'S, statement are true, heed it you must! Jim

Some folks are too young to have seen the original SW, or too dense to understand the power of the Force.
--especially how the Force can be an allegory for our individual will.
Without willpower, we are utterly powerless.

Julie wrote:I don't believe Provent is the answer for E. It's problematic even for people with no trouble on Cpap (who use it for travelling) and is certainly not a long term answer. I suggested biofeedback, self hypnosis, etc. but have heard nothing about trying them - apparently complaining is easier.

I believe that HoseCrusher tried Provent and ran into major issues with it when he put on his honey facial and his wife started licking it off and got honey stuck in the nose piece. The poor guy didn't realize it until he went to sleep and almost suffocated on honey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 4DkAzj2NVM

Goofproof wrote:Until you put away the excuses, you aren't ready to try. Only you can decide if you can do anything, you must make the decision to succeed, telling the world and yourself you are trying, or have tried, doesn't get the job done.
First you must be true to yourself. Nothing can be accomplished if your lying to yourself!
YODA'S, statement are true, heed it you must! Jim

Then they are true for you. Until you stop making excuses for not being at a healthy weight, you will remain unhealthy. And I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings I am telling you the truth. You're gonna give that shit, then it goes both ways. You have not put in the time to better your health. And you have no excuses. Why aren't you running marathons?

Julie wrote:I don't believe Provent is the answer for E. It's problematic even for people with no trouble on Cpap (who use it for travelling) and is certainly not a long term answer. I suggested biofeedback, self hypnosis, etc. but have heard nothing about trying them - apparently complaining is easier.

Do we really know that for sure about Provent? I know the studies so far have been done by the company which obviously doesn't put much weight into the results either way.

I have tried it briefly but can't say I have given it a fair shot for various reasons. But interestingly, in one of the recent articles on the cpap.com website, a sleep med physician talked about a patient with severe apnea who was well treated by using Provent, a dental device, and sleeping on her side. Personally, I can't imagine sleeping with all that stuff but heck, whatever works, right?

Agree isn't the answer for E since he is a mouth breather.

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