ResMed AirSense 10 "Smart Start" Doesn't Shut Down

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

Reuven Gruber wrote:Where in the manual does it require a certain pressure for the feature to work [and which manual are you referring to?]

Page 32.
And, I (like Krelvin) think it's working as it's supposed to.

In the previous generations of the ResMed machines, when a full face mask was selected, it turned off the Smartstart feature.

in really OLD previous machines, like first software revision s9 machines, but every one I've had smart start worked with all mask selections.

Right.
But, then I have never and would never own a ResMed machine to test its features.


Den

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Wulfman... wrote:

palerider wrote:in really OLD previous machines, like first software revision s9 machines, but every one I've had smart start worked with all mask selections.

Right.
But, then I have never and would never own a ResMed machine to test its features.

not a problem. I don't have any of the big old respirs, so that's why I leave the advice about them to you cuz I know you know more about 'em than I ever will

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:

palerider wrote:in really OLD previous machines, like first software revision s9 machines, but every one I've had smart start worked with all mask selections.

Right.
But, then I have never and would never own a ResMed machine to test its features.

not a problem. I don't have any of the big old respirs, so that's why I leave the advice about them to you cuz I know you know more about 'em than I ever will

Probably like most forum members......other than the ones I/we own, the amount of knowledge we accumulate is from what we see in the clinical manuals and what users report. When their experiences differ from what the manuals (and other users) say, then we have interesting threads like this one.

Sooooo........in your opinion, is the OP's machine working "properly"?


Den

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My machine cant possibly be considered to be working properly - there is an advertised and documented feature (automatic shut off) that doesn't work

Reuven Gruber wrote:MarylandCPAPer

Nice cat

Your post shows that you are using the model 10. Does automatic shutoff work for you?

Yes. My pressure range is from 10.6 to 20, so I never use it with a pressure less than 7.

One way to test it, if you can tolerate it, would be to set the pressure up to 8, Put the mask on and let it run for a minute, then take the mask off. That would avoid the 7 cm pressure range issue.

You can change your settings using the information in the previously linked clinician menu. Also, you may want to change the settings on Essentials to Plus, if it is not already, so that you can see more data on your display (just for general reference, not to do with the current issue you have),

Has the auto off feature EVER worked for you on this machine?

Reuven Gruber wrote:My machine cant possibly be considered to be working properly - there is an advertised and documented feature (automatic shut off) that doesn't work

Why not take it to the DME and let them check it out?

Reuven Gruber wrote:Chunkyfrog

Your post shows that you are using the AirSense 10. Does automatic shutoff work for you?

It does shut down, but it takes longer than I care to wait. I use a small P10.
I have no trouble reaching over to hit the button, so I do it just to keep the noise from waking the spousal unit.
It sounds like there may be a defect in your machine.
Darlin', just trot it over to the DME. The sooner you do, the sooner it gets fixed--or whatever.

Wulfman... wrote:Sooooo........in your opinion, is the OP's machine working "properly"?

well, it's working "within the parameters established by the manual", no matter what our favorite manual nitpicker wants to say.

easy enough to figure out if it's working right or not, set the min pressure to 8, and see, if it cuts off, then it's probably just not as sensitive as most, if it doesn't, it's got a glitch.

I recently had an issue with a vauto machine because I'd put a AB filter on it, but the setting was 'no" so the ab filter caused enough back pressure that the machine didn't recognize the mask off situation.

I just checked the airsense manual, and it shows that there's an ab filter setting for them. I wonder if the ab filter setting is proper on the OP's machine.

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Sooooo........in your opinion, is the OP's machine working "properly"?

I recently had an issue with a vauto machine because I'd put a AB filter on it, but the setting was 'no" so the ab filter caused enough back pressure that the machine didn't recognize the mask off situation.

I just checked the airsense manual, and it shows that there's an ab filter setting for them. I wonder if the ab filter setting is proper on the OP's machine.

This is a tangent, but I am wondering how often you have to replace anti-bacterial filters and whether a dr. has to prescribe them for a DME to provide them. I got a regular filter with the A10. Just curious about the AB filters. Interesting that they could affect auto off. Do AB filters require higher pressure settings?

MarylandCPAPer wrote:This is a tangent,

no, and no.

Reuven, did you ever get Smart Start to work to your liking?

I just got my AirSense 10 and I cannot enable Smart Start. It doesn't respond when selected. It appears to be 'greyed' out. Does another feature or setting need to be activated to make it come on?

Thanks
John

jschumann wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:18 pm

I just got my AirSense 10 and I cannot enable Smart Start. It doesn't respond when selected. It appears to be 'greyed' out. Does another feature or setting need to be activated to make it come on?

Thanks
John

Exactly which model machine do you have?.
Is there a leak alarm feature? If so...is it turned on? If it is turned on..turn it off and see if you can access SmartStart

Pugsie said:
Exactly which model machine do you have?.
Is there a leak alarm feature? If so...is it turned on? If it is turned on..turn it off and see if you can access SmartStart

I have Aircurve 10 Vauto

Will try leaksense setting

John

jschumann wrote: ↑

Mon May 06, 2019 2:42 am

Pugsie said:
Exactly which model machine do you have?.
Is there a leak alarm feature? If so...is it turned on? If it is turned on..turn it off and see if you can access SmartStart

I have Aircurve 10 Vauto

Will try leaksense setting

John

AirSense 10 machines don't have a leak alarm setting to turn off or on but the AirCurve 10 machines do have that setting in the setup menu area.
When the leak alarm setting is turned on the SmartStart auto on/off feature is disabled. You can have one or the other but not both.
It's been that way for at least over 10 years with the ResMed bilevel machines.
The AirCurve 10 is a bilevel machine...