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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:35 am
by Goofproof
[quote="Newbie"]These guys have it listed for $695 without humidifier. No combo prices listed, so I guess you have to tack it on separately =>

http://www.bestcpapprice.com/Respironic ... 21-93.html


Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:22 am
by Research_Guy
<sarcasm>
By all means, CPAPs should be considered on PRICE ALONE,,,,,not whether the patient is actually COMPLIANT using it or whether the patient is more comfortable with a particular device or mask. Let alone what SPECIFIC qualities or design patents one machine has over another. Forget all of that and let's just worry about price!
</sarcasm>

Seriously, I still fail to understand what price has to do with whether a patient can successfully use a particular device.

Maybe someone will enlighten me? Thank you

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:31 am
by Goofproof
Research_Guy wrote:<sarcasm>
By all means, CPAPs should be considered on PRICE ALONE,,,,,not whether the patient is actually COMPLIANT using it or whether the patient is more comfortable with a particular device or mask. Let alone what SPECIFIC qualities or design patents one machine has over another. Forget all of that and let's just worry about price!
</sarcasm>

Seriously, I still fail to understand what price has to do with whether a patient can successfully use a particular device.

Maybe someone will enlighten me? Thank you
WE are talking about the REMstar APAP M, here possiably the second finest APAP in the World Here! The old REMstar APAP being the Best, in my opinion.

Price is ICING on the CAKE!

BTW: In that sites ad it says that the new "M", doesn't Auto set for elevation, My old one does, so I guess they have made a change, backwards.

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Respironics, Auto w/cflex

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:33 am
by HP
It is a special pleasure to slap that old mask on at night knowing that the other end of the hose is connected to the Respironics APAP. I really love that machine.

There is no need for an "M" or even jumping in to bash Resmed.....The current Respironics APAP does it all!

Just my $0.02.


Data!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:51 am
by GoofyUT
I DOES look like the new M auto DOES report therapy stats on the LCD. Glad that Respironics finally figured out how to catch up to ResMed. Now, if they would only drop the Oreck-wannabe design team!


Chuck


Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:10 am
by ufo13
I totally agree with goofproof (Jim)! Why would you support another online vender ( unless insurance dictats a certain DME or provider) when cpap.com is the best out there, pays for and supports this site and forum, and also helps to support our guys & gals serving our country! Being a veteran, as many here are, I look for and support a company which not only does RIGHT by it's customers but also does RIGHT by supporting his country! Johnny Goodman does THAT and more! My hats OFF to them! BUY AT CPAP.COM-You won't be sorry!


All the best!


Steve,
ufo13


Re: Data!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:05 pm
by Guest
GoofyUT wrote:I DOES look like the new M auto DOES report therapy stats on the LCD. Glad that Respironics finally figured out how to catch up to ResMed. Now, if they would only drop the Oreck-wannabe design team!


Chuck
Chuck: I just went to oreck.com to TRY to see what you keep going on about, but couldn't find anything there that looks like the M Series


Re: Data!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:19 pm
by Goofproof
[quote="GoofyUT"]I DOES look like the new M auto DOES report therapy stats on the LCD. Glad that Respironics finally figured out how to catch up to ResMed. Now, if they would only drop the Oreck-wannabe design team!


Chuck


Possibilities

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:43 pm
by GoofyUT
Ah the possibilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How's about a Briggs&Stratton-powered, Oreck-designed, HEPA filtered combination APAP-Vacuum cleaner???? Sleep well at night, tidy up during the day, for only pennies a snore!!!!

Now, where'd that patent attorney guy go??????

Chuck


Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:19 pm
by Guest
Goofproof wrote:
Research_Guy wrote:<sarcasm>
By all means, CPAPs should be considered on PRICE ALONE,,,,,not whether the patient is actually COMPLIANT using it or whether the patient is more comfortable with a particular device or mask. Let alone what SPECIFIC qualities or design patents one machine has over another. Forget all of that and let's just worry about price!
</sarcasm>

Seriously, I still fail to understand what price has to do with whether a patient can successfully use a particular device.

Maybe someone will enlighten me? Thank you
WE are talking about the REMstar APAP M, here possiably the second finest APAP in the World Here! The old REMstar APAP being the Best, in my opinion.

Price is ICING on the CAKE!

BTW: In that sites ad it says that the new "M", doesn't Auto set for elevation, My old one does, so I guess they have made a change, backwards.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:43 pm
by Snoozin' Bluezzz
Anonymous wrote:They have made noticeable changes to the Auto's functions. I've used several autos starting with the earliest firmware to the latest Auto w/cflex I used last night. Changes made to the cflex model changed the way pressures increment, this machine I just received yesterday increments by .5cm where the non-cflex model it replaced incremented by .2cm. So if you used a 6.2cm before, your pressure options now are either 6.0 or 6.5cm. If you look at a report, it says you need 9.8, impossible to get to.
First - .5 or .8 "So what?!"

Second - not so. My current Remstar Auto, purchased 2 weeks ago (not M) steps in only .5 increments.

David


Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:57 pm
by Rastaman
My guess David is that yours is a C-flex model and his was "non-C-flex". Just a guess. He has a model one older than you. So, you're actually agreeing with him, as opposed to "not so".

I can see where .2 might seem like a big deal to some. But then again, I think an 8 setting is "barely on" so that's my 2 cents worth. Some people think a 6 is just right.


Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:10 pm
by Goofproof
Actually the relief, according to REMstar is based on Your own exhaust force, the harder you exhale the more relief. It's not based in a set pressure relief, so their is no set point. Jim

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:19 pm
by Handgunner45
Anonymous wrote:I assume to add the cflex feature to this model, they ran out of available on-board memory on the machine to enable the older style pressure increment values.
Or perhaps they realized that the difference in treatment effectiveness between .2 and .5 steps was not significant enough to offset the additional costs of trying to control the pressure to the .2 steps. Truth be told, most XPAP machines are only accurate to +or- 1cmH2O.


Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:44 am
by Jstevens75
Chuck are you considering switching? Would there be any good reason?

Thanks!

Jack