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wm_hess wrote:From reading that, it appears that an inverter can be used to run the device?

Let's assume WebSiteCompany (WSC) is honest and knowledgeable. Assume they say on their web site that the A10 works OK on an inverter.

Is WSC going to replace your A10 machine if it is damaged while using an inverter?

If your A10 machine quits working while being used with an inverter, is WSC going to decide they steered you wrong and replace your A10? How do you know the A10 died from the inverter, and not for unrelated reasons?

How do they know it was damaged because of a general problem with using inverters, or could the problem be that the inverter you used was defective?

Are they going to replace your A10 machine if you used an inverter because of their web site, but didn't buy their battery?

How long is it going to take for them to decide that they were at fault, even if they do? Are they going to want you to send them your A10 machine and the inverter so they can test them and evaluate them?

If you use an inverter and your UPS fails for unrelated reasons, will ResMed deny your warranty claim?

wm_hess wrote:If I may ask though why would you want to use an inverter instead of a converter? Doesn't a inverter use more energy than a converter, thus draining a battery faster?

The ResMed converter is expensive. Inverters are easily obtained elsewhere, and can be used for devices other than CPAP machines. Many people already have inverters.

UPS's can power your CPAP full time and automatically fall back to battery usage when the power goes out. UPS's use inverters. If the A10 won't work on inverters, it won't work on a UPS, either. Most home generators use inverters.

ResMed owes it to their customers to tell them what forms of power will and won't safely power their CPAP machines. Especially since they do give out SOME information about running off of battery power.

If an inverter WILL damage the A10, they owe it to their customers to inform them of this. I consider it to be a design flaw.

By the way, Philips Respironics doesn't publish any information about running on battery. I'd be happy to be proved wrong on this, but I haven't been able to find it.

As I said, I expect it's OK, but it's possible that it can damage the machine. ResMed should update their battery power information page to say yes or no for the A10 machines.

I figured it made more sense to buy the Devillbiss for when power supply is a problem.
Then, I not only do not risk my good machine, but I have a spare in case something else happens.

From my little experiment I think it works just fine on a standard modified sine wave inverter. I agree with an earlier poster that's it's probably just a case of the available literature from ResMed has not yet caught up to the release of the new machine.

I think if any component was going to fail over time running on an inverter it would be the power converter on the power cord, which probably has a warranty similar to the machine itself.

Arc.....I notice you are currently listing an S9 in your equipment profile, what percentage of the total run hours have been on an inverter with your current machine? Any problems with your current ResMed machine due to running it from an inverter? And lastly, is this an important consideration for a purchase of a new Airsense machine? If so what is your time frame? Could you delay the purchase of an Airsense until you get definitive information from ResMed? Are you making a Mountain out of a Mole Hill?

Just sayin'

Ok bumping up this thread because of the Airsense 10 and it not being listed in the battery guide for use with an inverter.

I just pulled up the June 2018 ver 6 guide and its still not listed. But I don't see anything warning you NOT to use one.

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... lo_eng.pdf

Coming back to this thread because I have a new RV and CPAP and boondocking questions pop up a lot.

chartle wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:30 am

Ok bumping up this thread because of the Airsense 10 and it not being listed in the battery guide for use with an inverter.

I just pulled up the June 2018 ver 6 guide and its still not listed. But I don't see anything warning you NOT to use one.

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... lo_eng.pdf

Coming back to this thread because I have a new RV and CPAP and boondocking questions pop up a lot.

The air10's are powered the same as the S9.

Using an inverter for them is dumb, in respect to battery life. Use the 12v converter.

chartle wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:30 am

Ok bumping up this thread because of the Airsense 10 and it not being listed in the battery guide for use with an inverter.

I just pulled up the June 2018 ver 6 guide and its still not listed. But I don't see anything warning you NOT to use one.

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... lo_eng.pdf

Coming back to this thread because I have a new RV and CPAP and boondocking questions pop up a lot.

The 12 volt converter for the AirSense 10 works and is much more efficient than using an inverter. I use the ResMed converter with a 12 volt battery for power outage situations. I have used it for several nights (without heated hose & humidity in my case) and it works fine.

Sixty eight bucks for the converter beats the syrup out of hundreds for the proprietary battery pack.

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

D.H. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

What did you do with the REAL D.H. ?? This post is actually reasonably accurate & useful!

The DC converter actually converts from 12 volts DC to 24 volts DC though. There is still some conversion, but very efficient.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

D.H. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

What did you do with the REAL D.H. ?? This post is actually reasonably accurate & useful!

The DC converter actually converts from 12 volts DC to 24 volts DC though. There is still some conversion, but very efficient.

He may have learned to read, it been posted over 6 times, repetition helps. Jim

There has to be conversion because they they weren't smart enough to make a XPAP that ran on 24 volts or didn't require a extra circuit, so that can keep price gouging the customer.

Goofproof wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:22 pm

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

D.H. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

What did you do with the REAL D.H. ?? This post is actually reasonably accurate & useful!

The DC converter actually converts from 12 volts DC to 24 volts DC though. There is still some conversion, but very efficient.

He may have learned to read, it been posted over 6 times, repetition helps. Jim

There has to be conversion because they they weren't smart enough to make a XPAP that ran on 24 volts or didn't require a extra circuit, so that can keep price gouging the customer.

Also, a broken clock is correct twice a day

Hmmmm, makes you wonder what D.H. is short for.
Disturbing hallucination?

. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

What did you do with the REAL . ?? This post is actually reasonably accurate & useful!

Like I say, DH isn't always wrong... but like a stopped clock, it's just not worth the effort of trying to find the absurdly rare nuggets of correctness among the flood of drivel.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:45 pm

Goofproof wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:22 pm

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

D.H. wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I suggest that if you're starting with a DC power supply, you should not convert it to AC. When you use this machine at home, the "brick" on the power cord converts household electricity (which is AC) to DC. This is what the machine runs on. It makes no sense to convert it and then convert it back!

I suggest you use the product on the link below.


Link to converter ===> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... hines.html

What did you do with the REAL D.H. ?? This post is actually reasonably accurate & useful!

The DC converter actually converts from 12 volts DC to 24 volts DC though. There is still some conversion, but very efficient.

He may have learned to read, it been posted over 6 times, repetition helps. Jim

There has to be conversion because they they weren't smart enough to make a XPAP that ran on 24 volts or didn't require a extra circuit, so that can keep price gouging the customer.

Also, a broken clock is correct twice a day

If you don't mess with the hands. Jim

I guess my question was really if there was some issue that you never want to run an Airsence 10 on an inverter.

The person with the issue had only one option at the time and it was to use an inverter they already had for their fridge. They didn't plan on boondocking for one of the nights on the road and wanted to use it.