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corvallisgrace75 wrote: I'd like to see pharmaceutical companies improve their knowledge of the existing drugs and find a way to improve their efficacy.

There is the problem. When people are crying out for drugs, companies are going to produce them. Companies only produce what people want and are willing to pay for.

CowFish wrote:

corvallisgrace75 wrote: I'd like to see pharmaceutical companies improve their knowledge of the existing drugs and find a way to improve their efficacy.

There is the problem. When people are crying out for drugs, companies are going to produce them. Companies only produce what people want and are willing to pay for.

I don't know what your experience is with taking psych meds. But I know my experience and that of many others. Visit a psych meds forum and you'll find that people are on 5-6 different meds for mental health issues. That seems totally unnecessary in my opinion. It makes me realize that I am fortunate in some ways. I feel very badly for some of these folks. They only want to feel better and lead healthy, productive, joyful lives.

I think people would be far more satisfied if they could take one drug that works rather than a second drug that the company introduces to take in combination with the first one when that first one starts losing its efficacy. This is the case with Abilify. Prozac isn't working? Well add in Abilify then. You won't get any relief unless you take them both now. In essence, they are giving us no choice in some cases--other than to take multiple drugs. I don't think they care much about what we can afford or are willing to pay. They know we're dependent on these drugs and seem to exploit that need quite handily.

This shouldn't be that hard to understand.

CPAP is THE gold standard for apnea treatment. It's a true lifesaver, probably one of the top twenty medical technologies of all time if we used it right.

The medical system we have for dispensing and managing CPAP use is horribly corrupt and broken. Lots of money is wasted, and many patients suffer because it's managed poorly or unnecessarily expensive and they don't get the treatment they need.

As for Big Pharma, it's a bit like you need insulin, but you have to buy it from shady characters on the street corner who are in cahoots with the local cops to keep the competition down and prices up.

Unfortunately, the split between corporate medicine and compassionate medicine widens each day.

I think I am going to start bottling and selling my well water ... since it has almost nothing left of all the elements and chemical compounds ever on earth and known to man. So it is the perfect mixture to cure and prevent any known condition.

But I don't understand why it has not cured my sleep apnoea

Maybe if I use my well water in the humidifier ... some of the things that there is almost nothing left of will get into the vapour and cure my apnoea

more trouble on the horizon for homeopathy.... the govt looking into actually testing to see if the claims hold up...

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ho ... efore-fda/

And they'll probably take years, spend millions of tax dollars, and come up with the answer most of us already know!

No

I know this will fall on deaf ears but I believe that if you believe something you should say it. I don't know much about homeopathic medicine but I know plenty about naturalistic and traditional medicine and what I know is this, neither is better than the other, both can kill you IF you have a quack for a practitioner and YOU are not involved in your own treatment.

Big pharma and the medical community kill people everyday and so do naturalistic and homeopathic practitioners. As long as people have to GUESS what is wrong with each and then GUESS how to treat each other people will make mistakes and people will die. And as long there are lazy people and greedy people there will be incompetence and corruption in the medical field, same as any other industry.

Also I would like to point out that the studies that say that homeopathic cures work were probably financed by homeopathic cure manufacturers and studies that say this drug or that therapy works was most definitely financed by the manufacturer. So as with all things in life buyer beware. Just because a doctor prescribes it doesn't make it safe and just because a shaman or practitioner uses it doesn't make it useless quackery.

Now let the flames begin.

An online pharmacy is selling a 'homeopathic owl' remedy that is prescribed to people with owl 'characteristics' like insomnia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyVk3F5-Es

Krelvin wrote:An online pharmacy is selling a 'homeopathic owl' remedy that is prescribed to people with owl 'characteristics' like insomnia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyVk3F5-Es

Probably works just as well as the insomnia meds which have a great track record for relieving insomnia. And before anyone flames me, this is not an endorsement of homeopathy. Just trying to point out that some conventional meds can be just as worthless in some cases as homeopathic remedies and with alot more side effects.

49er

To return to the original topic: I've had some luck with valerian and relaxation techniques for occasional insomnia. Also for my 'middle of the night jitters' and frequent urination (adrenal gland issues) I've found mineral supplements like magnesium, potassium (be careful with it), calcium, and phosphorus (in the form of Seriphos, google it) to really help a lot to mellow out my nervous system at night. I only take half a Seriphos tho... it's a capsule so it is easy to split in half since it tastes fine. For muscle cramps from mt biking I take potassium and magnesium which knocks out cramps all day. I don't use things like LED light arrays, copper bracelets or tin foil hats etc - that's a step to far for me

Sir NoddinOff wrote:To return to the original topic: I've had some luck with valerian and relaxation techniques for occasional insomnia. Also for my 'middle of the night jitters' and frequent urination (adrenal gland issues) I've found mineral supplements like magnesium, potassium (be careful with it), calcium, and phosphorus (in the form of Seriphos, google it) really help a lot to mellow out my nervous system at night. I only take half a Seriphos tho... it's a capsule so it is easy to split in half since it tastes fine. For muscle cramps from mt biking I take potassium and magnesium which knocks out cramps all day. I don't use things like led light arrays, copper bracelets or tin foil hats etc - that's a step to far for me

Glad you are having success with these supplements SNO as I know insomnia has been an issue for you. As an FYI, for some reason, I have never had success in taking anything to get back to sleep.

But interestingly, I had my typical early awakening last night probably due to the time change returning from the west to east coast. Watched TV with my light blocking sunglasses and finally felt sleepy. Figured I would be up in an hour. Much to my complete pleasant surprise, when I woke up, it was sunlight which was a big time first for me.

Anyway, I wish you much continued success.

49er

Sir NoddinOff wrote:To return to the original topic

You did not return to the original topic.

Sir NoddinOff wrote: valerian and relaxation techniques magnesium, potassium calcium, and phosphorus LED light arrays, copper bracelets or tin foil hats etc

None of those are homeopathic.