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The CL2 wouldn't have the full face mask code.

Mike,

Earlier in the thread you said you were going to try an awake high pressure test did you ever get a chance?

jondough wrote:Boy I envy you "active" sleepers that can sleep with the hose both on and under the blankets. I start on my stomache, then I am on one side then the other, on my back, under the covers, over the covers, adding covers, throwing them off.

I just cannot imagine not having my hose go overhead. I am amazed that I do as well with it there and rarely disconnecting. No way it would work below the neck!

By the way, my wife would envy anyone who is less active than I.

All one has to do is train oneself to sleep only on the sides of the body. This is easily achieved with enough bouts of back pain. Take it from a former stomach sleeper. (It is a guess that I avoided the back sleeping due to the OSA.)

It makes me wonder WHY you have so much activity going on. It sounds as if there may be something keeping you from resting quietly. Just wondering: Has this activity improved with apnea treatment?

That said, there is still the increased ability to turn from side to side by routing the hose overhead. I am voting in favor of overhead routing, but there was a time not so long ago when I did not know how I would be able to sleep with a CPAP.... Change can be good!

No rainout, but I use the Aussie heated hose. Late day working haven't run pressure test yet, will tomorrow night.

I just did a quick calculation. With both the a7031 and a7033 codes, it is as much as $135 each month (1 FF interface + 2 pairs of pillows). Really???

mikemoran wrote:No rainout, but I use the Aussie heated hose.

Mike,
Thanks for the info.
Esther
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Mikemoran, can your pressure test determine if someone of a pressure over 18 can comfortably wear the mask?

Isaac what I will be testing for will be whether the mask can keep its seal. since my pressure is lower I cannot determine comfort. What I plan on doing is cranking my CPAP up to 20 with the mask on and move around lying down to see if the nasal pillows shift and leak. Will be doing this awake and I don't want to trigger any central Apneas. Not scientific by any means, just to see if the mask will hold up to the pressure.

[quote="mikemoran"]Isaac what I will be testing for will be whether the mask can keep its seal. since my pressure is lower I cannot determine comfort. What I plan on doing is cranking my CPAP up to 20 with the mask on and move around lying down to see if the nasal pillows shift and leak. Will be doing this awake and I don't want to trigger any central Apneas. Not scientific by any means, just to see if the mask will hold up to the pressure.

Mike,

What I recommend is that you increase the pressure from whatever is your titrated pressure (is it 11 cm?) to 20 in increments of say 2 cm to determine at what level you run into any issues (if at all).

Sleepy-in-AL wrote: The hose quick release, or lack therof, does bother me a bit though. Wonder why they left that out? Oh well, if it seals and doesn't dig into the bridge of my nose, I can get past that.

I called technical support. They said that the swivel coupling offers the hose quick release.

HI Mike:

Nice review, thanks.

How do you compare this to the Swift, comfortwise. Are you ok with that interface? Did you get sore with the Swift as compared to the Hybrid?

Thanks,

Tom

[quote="mikemoran"]Datona,

Like any mask I can't recommend one or another to anyone. Each of us are so different in what we can tolerate. I can only tell how it worked for me. Last night was good. The seals kept and I was able to sleep pretty good with it. I have my Spirit set for full face mask, but because of the flow volume for this mask I am not sure that is the right setting. So until I figure that, I can't rely on the readings. Just know I dreamt and felt alert this morning.

As far as weight goes it is lighter than the Activa when held in hand. On the face it is harder to judge because it sets on the mouth versus the nose. With the mouth being less sensitive. Since I strap it down tight it doesn't float like the Activa, but overall the sensation is that it is lighter because nothing on the forehead and nothing crossing the line of sight.

Okay did some playing around last night with higher pressures. went all the way to 20 in increments of two. the seal held both on the mouth and the pillows. In fact the pillows sealed better at the higher pressures. it sort of ballooned up.

If there is a quick release at the elbow I can't figure it out. The only way I see disconnecting it is by breaking it. Guess I need to break out the manual and check the fine print.

Suprisingly, I have not had the nsotril irritation I find with other nasal pillow systems (Swift, Breeze, CL2, Aura). The pillows are very soft and seal well.

I just remove one of the bottom clips in order to take it off and put it on. It is a bit of tight fit getting the headgear over my head this way. When I first put it on it is tight and presses down on the beard which is a bit irritating. after a few minutes I get used to it. The chin support barely goes over my chin so this is where i have the most problem, it gets a little itchy where it compresses my facial hair. it fully supports the chin, but mouth breathing isn't a problem because you can breath through your mouth like a normal Ff mask. The only real pressure point is where the bottom strap hits the back of my neck, but it doesn't rub and is agaisnt muscle.

Hope this helps.

Mike: Were you able to adapt to the SWift?

I have slotted nares also, and I renamed my Swift to "Chuckie." I have not been able to use it because of the sores, despite gels and threatening it with a one-way trip to a landfill in New 'Jersey.

YOu mentioned that the pillows are softer than the Swifts. SO you have had NO irritation or the need for Ayr gel?

Tnx,

Tom

Sorry to be so blind (may be time for new reading glasses) but could someone re-post the link to the video for this mask? It has been spoken of and I can't find it. I have searched both this thread and the link to another thread which first introduced the trial offer of this mask to the members of this site and cannot find it.

Thank you in advance to whoever can pass it my way.