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Creating placebos is big business.
Some are even designed to have similar side effects to complete the illusion.

jilliansue wrote:Thanks for the suggestion, Julie. I like the idea of sending money to a third world country. I lived in one for a number of years, and it changed my perspective forever.

I haven't taken any homeopathic medicine for a long time. I don't take it when, say, I feel I have a cold, because as you said, something like that gets better on its own. I have taken it for a persistent condition for which Western medicine could offer very little in terms of a true cure.

Happy New Year!

We as a country have been sending money and food to third world country, for more than 50 years,the result is even more overpopulation and misery,more crooks and thieves, all with AK 47's, shooting in the air, terrorizing their own people, and hating the U.S.A. I don't think it is helping them better their lot in life.

Birth control, teaching them to fish (make then self sufficient), teaching them to kill off the lawless that control their lives. That would be helping make their lives better and safer! Jim

And Happy New Year to you Jim... any more nasty notes to proffer?

Here's an old poem to think about in your lucky (for today) life -

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

"Then they came for the natural healers,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a natural healer
and I believed the government when they said natural healers were
dangerous, radical quacks because they don’t support the pharmaceutical industry."

BlackSpinner wrote:

Julie wrote:I've got an idea JS, next time you feel the need of homeopathic medicine, try going without for a week or so... according to 'Western" medicine, you probably will get better anyway... most people do get better from most things they 'catch' or experience no matter what doctors do or don't do. It's scientifically proven. And you're not throwing money into the garbage... try sending it to a 3rd world country instead.

It is also scientifically proven that placebo works fine for many people so it is not a good comparison.

ya just gotta convince yourself that the water that comes out of the tap remembers whatever it needs to do from the last time that it came into contact with some other homeo water in past times that knew what to do to fix your problem, and let the placebo aspect of homeo take over and make you better.

and save yourself a bundle.

Where but the internet can fools be mocked and charlatans be shamed?

Julie wrote:And Happy New Year to you Jim... any more nasty notes to proffer?

you can always count on Jim for something natsy, bigoted, hateful or ignorant to brighten your day, eh?

I think it's important to realize that homeopathy is fake beyond the level of many other forms alternative medicine.

Traditional Chinese medicine, rhino horn, wooha root, silver water, or herbs have actual chemicals in it. Some of it might actually have actual effects on your body. A small percentage of such remedies have been found to be effective and are now "medicine" instead of quackery.

Acupuncture conceivably could do something to your body.

Even prayer and faith healing has a certain degree of honesty to it because they don't claim there's science involved.

Homeopathy tries to claim there's some sort of science in the magic molecular memory in water molecules. It's bogus.

Look at the description of how they actually prepare homeopathic medicine. Dilute 1 part of the active ingredient in 100 parts of water. Strike the container with the magic silver rod or some other "succussion" process, and somehow the water magically picks up the good properties of the active ingredient. Repeat many times, getting smaller and smaller amounts of the active ingredient. It's often diluted to the point where no molecules of the original ingredient remain.

We better gold plate our wands to keep theirs at bay!

archangle wrote:It's often diluted to the point where no molecules of the original ingredient remain.

I can't think of a better method to stretch resources and cut down on your supply costs.

it's like if resmed stopped using the same hardware for all their machines, and instead started using the MEMORY of the ingredients....

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palerider wrote:

archangle wrote:It's often diluted to the point where no molecules of the original ingredient remain.

I can't think of a better method to stretch resources and cut down on your supply costs.

it's like if resmed stopped using the same hardware for all their machines, and instead started using the MEMORY of the ingredients....

I think there is a fellow at Phillips Respironics that used to work at Resmed. His job is to remember what an XPAP machine and its component parts looked like....

Maybe I can start selling homeopathic apnea air. I'll collect a sample of your exhaled air, mix it with 100x as much air, shake up the air container thoroughly, then repeat the process 20 times, and then sell it back to you. You then let a little bit of it out every night into your room air and then run a special machine I'll sell you that succusses the air in your room. Of course, you'll have to replace the special homeopathic air succussion filters every month or so.

archangle wrote:Maybe I can start selling homeopathic apnea air. I'll collect a sample of your exhaled air, mix it with 100x as much air, shake up the air container thoroughly, then repeat the process 20 times, and then sell it back to you. You then let a little bit of it out every night into your room air and then run a special machine I'll sell you that succusses the air in your room. Of course, you'll have to replace the special homeopathic air succussion filters every month or so.

they look just like the regular filters, but they're SPECIAL.... and man are those fuckers expensive!!!

ChicagoGranny wrote:"Then they came for the natural healers,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a natural healer
and I believed the government when they said natural healers were
dangerous, radical quacks because they don’t support the pharmaceutical industry."

On a related note,

Peter C Gotzsche 'Deadly medicines and organised crime How big pharma has corrupted healthcare

Written by an MD and not an evil homeopath

By the way, loved your revised wording CG. Perfect.