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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:29 pm
by anonfan1432
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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:49 pm
by Guest
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Denial Dave wrote:getting back to the original OP question

How about when the medical test results tell you that sleep apnea is not your cause for nocturia ?
you mean a prostate exam?
That would be a DRE.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:52 pm
by anonfan1432
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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:28 pm
by palerider
<Removed by Admin> wrote:whats a DRE?
here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+dre&l=1

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:00 pm
by Greenkat
Palerider....I just love your sarcasm. I know many members find it obnoxious, but I appreciate a quick wit especially when it is helpful rather than hurtful.
I did find it interesting, though, to see your google referral on the dreaded MALE rectal exam. Guess there are some areas you'd rather not touch! (No pun intended!)

Alex, in response to your question my AHI averages between a 1 & 3 most nights since I began treatment. I feel rested whether is a 3 or a 1 now.

The bathroom trips began to decrease several weeks ago....about 4 months into treatment. Went from twice a night or more down to zero the past few weeks!

Again, let the therapy work for a few months before freaking out.

Good luck!

Kathy

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:54 pm
by palerider
Greenkat wrote:Palerider....I just love your sarcasm. I know many members find it obnoxious, but I appreciate a quick wit especially when it is helpful rather than hurtful.
I did find it interesting, though, to see your google referral on the dreaded MALE rectal exam. Guess there are some areas you'd rather not touch! (No pun intended!)
Honestly, I've been to much worse places

my lmgtfy was more to show how easy it is to look something up yourself, and the handyness of the 'define' keyword for google, though it didn't actually come up directly with a definition this time. (it frequently does)

in around the same time it would take to *ask* the question on here, you can get brief, and in depth answers to many things just with a quick search, without having to wait for someone to respond.

and, I'm glad if I put a grin on your face now and then as a side benefit.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:52 pm
by Guest
Now just have to figure out who deleted Julies post...
Julie wrote:Alex! Go do a PSA/Prostate exam! Just get it done and stop fussing people here who have tried to help but are now frustrated with you. Never mind what a DRE or anything else (besides PSA) is. Call your MD and get tested. Then let us know the results when they come back.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:15 pm
by zoocrewphoto
Denial Dave wrote:getting back to the original OP question

How about when the medical test results tell you that sleep apnea is not your cause for nocturia ?
Since when is peeing ONCE per night = nocturia?

There is no evidence that he actually has a problem.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:46 pm
by palerider
zoocrewphoto wrote:
Denial Dave wrote:getting back to the original OP question
How about when the medical test results tell you that sleep apnea is not your cause for nocturia ?
Since when is peeing ONCE per night = nocturia?
There is no evidence that he actually has a problem.
by definition, having to pee once per night *is* nocturia.

noct, night, uria, pee, night pee.

given that once per night is "considered to be within *NORMAL* nocturia limits, we're back to most of the OP's problems being between his ears, if he's only night peeing once a night as you firmly believe he is...

me, I find his writing so scattered that I can't tell what he's doing currently vs before cpap etc.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:34 pm
by anonfan1432
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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:23 pm
by Julie
Not necessarily. Your body's not a machine, and while using Cpap may first 'fix' part of it to 'x' extent, it doesn't mean that all faulty parts will be fixed equally or in the same time as that first one.

Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:58 pm
by Wulfman...
I don't know about anybody else, but after decades of getting up at least once during the night, I get to worrying that something is "wrong" if I DON'T now (or if it's a lot longer period).


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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:10 pm
by anonfan1432
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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:35 pm
by Wulfman...
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Wulfman... wrote:I don't know about anybody else, but after decades of getting up at least once during the night, I get to worrying that something is "wrong" if I DON'T now (or if it's a lot longer period).


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do you remember at what age this started for you?
I am 26, and my nocturia started at 25 ABRUPTLY. Like literally, January 10th 2014, i never EVER woke up to void, but all of a sudden, since that day, it's every night.

As far as it being anxiety or depression, the reason why i doubt those is because i have had periods of time of MAJOR depressive and anxiety episodes, and I NEVER had this type of problem. In fact, in the times when i was so depressed and literally suicidal, i would regularly sleep 12-15 HOURS STRAIGHT.

Nowaways, my anxiety and depression is so little compared to that period, so it doesn't make sense that anxiety and depression could cause this,
Not really. I have trouble remembering anything from YESTERDAY.
But, seriously, I've probably had some degree of sleep apnea most of my life. I just didn't know much about it until the last 9 1/2 years. Possible enlarged turbinates, deviated septum, mild allergies.......could fall asleep at the drop of a hat. Had trouble staying awake doing school studies, burned the candle at both ends when I began working. It all caught up with me about 10 - 13 years ago. One problem was, we had dogs which needed to go outside during the nights, too, so I just made a stop at the bathroom while they were doing THEIR thing. Since I'd never heard of sleep apnea until early 2005, I had no knowledge of any of it.....symptoms or effects. I just thought it came with age and accepted it. I'm now in my late 60s and do (usually) get up once per night......4 - 6 hrs. or so. I just accept it and don't really worry about it. Like they say, when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. In other words, make the best of the situation and go on.


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Re: when to rule out sleep apnea as a cause for nocturia?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:47 pm
by palerider
and then there's this, flying and sqawking in the face of the "sleep 8 hours in a stretch" idea:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16964783