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Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:59 am
by Sludge
EMTunit31 wrote:Glad tomorrow my doctor is sorting this out with "ESKY"!
So how'd the sort go?

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:16 am
by EMTunit31
Oh Sludge, it's such a mess. My head is spinning. Ok. Here goes. I called sleep lab to see what kind of media to bring in to transfer study to. She said she has no way to transfer it. She also said she has worked in this field for 23 years. We continued to talk and she said she is very aware of whats going on. Her and Esky talked about it Tuesday. Esky wants 2nd study (me too) and I told her my insurance denied it. Hopefully, Monday, when I do my download at Dasco, it will show all the centrals and the sleep center can push insurance for 2nd study. I feel like I'm up against a wall or two. He knows it too.

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:01 pm
by Jay Aitchsee
EMTunit31 wrote:She said she has no way to transfer it.
Of course they have a way of transferring or reproducing it (Study Data).

I don't know, Sludge might, but it sounds as if the new ruling (Feb 3, 2014) of the Dept of HHS, which mandates labs provide results directly to patients upon request, could apply in this case.
http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2014pres/ ... 0203a.html
HHS.Gov wrote:Under the HIPAA Privacy Rule, patients, patient’s designees and patient’s personal representatives can see or be given a copy of the patient’s protected health information, including an electronic copy, with limited exceptions. In doing so, the patient or the personal representative may have to put their request in writing and pay for the cost of copying, mailing, or electronic media on which the information is provided, such as a CD or flash drive. In most cases, copies must be given to the patient within 30 days of his or her request.

Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:08 pm
by sleepstar
Can you take a copy of that report to another doctor? Id be shocked if CSA wasn't suggested, or if another sleep study wasn't requested to confirm the results.

Is the raw data really necessary? (Is it for insurance purposes?) Honestly, that report alone says it all.

In saying that, a lot of places try CPAP in the first instance for CSA anyway. It's cheaper, and is proven to work in many cases.

Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:17 pm
by sleepstar
OhHelpMe wrote:
****SHOCKED**** That people with as many posts as the two of you have this badly wrong.

Correct answer,
Points above the x axis are during inhale and points below the x axis are during exhale
Actually, you're incorrect too.

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:40 pm
by Sludge
Of course she can transfer the file. We did it for Amy. It's done under file utilities:

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Tell her if she doesn't get that copy to you now you'll call up Ohio DPH and have them ask for it.

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:41 pm
by Sludge
sleepstar wrote:
OhHelpMe wrote:
****SHOCKED**** That people with as many posts as the two of you have this badly wrong.

Correct answer,
Points above the x axis are during inhale and points below the x axis are during exhale
Actually, you're incorrect too.
OK, then clarify please.

Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:07 pm
by sleepstar
Sludge wrote:
sleepstar wrote:
OhHelpMe wrote:
****SHOCKED**** That people with as many posts as the two of you have this badly wrong.

Correct answer,
Points above the x axis are during inhale and points below the x axis are during exhale
Actually, you're incorrect too.
OK, then clarify please.
Hi Sludge,

Image

Hope that's helpful.

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:21 pm
by palerider
sleepstar wrote:
Sludge wrote:
sleepstar wrote:
OhHelpMe wrote:
****SHOCKED**** That people with as many posts as the two of you have this badly wrong.

Correct answer,
Points above the x axis are during inhale and points below the x axis are during exhale
Actually, you're incorrect too.
OK, then clarify please.
Hi Sludge,

Image

Hope that's helpful.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but just posting the picture doesn't really explain it very well, perhaps you could expound?

Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:32 pm
by sleepstar
palerider wrote:
sleepstar wrote:
Sludge wrote:
sleepstar wrote:
OhHelpMe wrote:
****SHOCKED**** That people with as many posts as the two of you have this badly wrong.

Correct answer,
Actually, you're incorrect too.
OK, then clarify please.
Hi Sludge,

Image

Hope that's helpful.
so, are you trying to say that you don't undestand the whole concept, or what? because posting a picture like that to sludge without any explaination doesn't lend you credibility.
Huh? I thought the question was what the flow signal meant. I think that diagram summarizes it nicely, and has the explanation on it...

This forum confuses me sometimes... I try to offer help and then get an abrupt response like that.

Maybe I shouldn't bother

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:49 pm
by Sludge
http://www.sleepscholar.com/category/rick-swanson/

Not that I agree with his entire explanation...

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:52 pm
by sleepstar
There's more information here, if you're after it

http://www.sleepscholar.com/category/rick-swanson/

Lots of confusing stuff about time constants and filters though!

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:54 pm
by sleepstar
Sludge wrote:http://www.sleepscholar.com/category/rick-swanson/

Not that I agree with his entire explanation...
How come Sludge? Something specific on there?

Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:58 pm
by sleepstar
sleepstar wrote:
Sludge wrote:http://www.sleepscholar.com/category/rick-swanson/

Not that I agree with his entire explanation...
How come Sludge? Something specific on there?
Maybe this article on the American Association of Sleep Technologists website is a bit clearer.

http://www.aastweb.org/resources/focusg ... rotech.pdf

Re: Translate Please

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:01 pm
by Sludge
I believe this to be inaccurate and misleading:

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in that "Return To Baseline" is actually completion of exhalation.