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Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:11 pm
by Pugsy
You need to go here and request the clinical/provider manual for your machine
http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-p ... tup-manual

In that manual it will explain how to get to and view the data that your machine collects. I suspect that you need to turn on Sleep Quality so you can see it on the LCD display.

What you are seeing now is just hours of use data. There's more than that available but it is by factory default turned off for patient viewing on the machine itself. Changing Sleep Quality from "usage which is hours of use) to "On" or patient (I forget what the S8 calls that setting) will allow you to see the data on the LCD screen.

Bear in mind that the leak number is in L/sec and not L/min and is a 95 % number which means you were at OR below that number for 95% of the night. People tend to forget the "or below" part of the definition and go into panic mode when the leak number is a bit high.

Your leak number that you hope to stay below.....on the S8 machine is 0.4 L/sec which equals the 24 L/min that you see S9 users talking about.
Even if it is a little bit high it might not be that big of a deal because of the "or below" thing but if it is less than 0.4 L/sec...leaks are within acceptable limits. Worry about the leak number if/when it is needed.

Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:19 pm
by Wulfman...
There's some overlapping information here, but the forum pages are full of instructions on how to get to the data.

Den

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ResMed S8 Series
To get into the provider setup mode in a ResMed S8 CPAP machine - such as the S8 Compact, S8 Elite or S8 AutoSet Vantage - follow these steps:

1. press the right and down arrows simultaneously for about 3 seconds until the "Clinical Menu" appears on the screen

Use the up and down arrows to cycle through the settings and use the left "soft key" to select "Change" or use the right "soft key" to "Exit" from the Clinical Menu. Below is a list of settings you can cycle through on an S8 AutoSet Vantage automatic CPAP machine. There are four groups of settings which have adjustments and data within them.

* Settings
o CPAP Mode
o Minimum CPAP Pressure
o Maximum CPAP Pressure
o Maximum Settling / Ramp
o Mask Type
o Tube Length
o Humidifier
o Smart Start
o Leak Alert
* Results
o Efficacy Data
o Usage Data
* Options
o Smart Data
o Reminders
o Factory Defaults
o Erase Data
o Date
o Time
o Menu Type
o Language
* Servicing
o Run Hours
o Serial Number
o PCV Number
o SW Number
o BR Number


Here's a link to some discussion and instructions about how to get to it.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37624&p=328206&hili ... ss#p328206


Den

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Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:27 pm
by Wulfman...
And, another post by "rested gal" in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37124&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... s&start=15

Re: No Resmed software for you!

Postby rested gal on Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:57 am


You don't need software or card reader or card module to access the data from the S8 Elite on the machine itself.

There is a setting in the clinical menu that has to be turned on before the Patient menu will show that info in the LCD the next day.

Here are some instructions that should help, even though they apply to the S8 Elite, not the S8 Elite II:

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ResMed S8 Vantage and Elite clinical menu:

To get into the clinical menu on the machine, press and hold down the "down" of the double-headed up/down arrow button. While pressing the "down" button, also press and hold down the righthand button.

Keep holding both buttons down together. Afte a few seconds you'll see "Clinical Menu Welcome" appear on the screen. Keep holding the buttons down a few more seconds until "Welcome" disappears.


The left side of the screen will now say "Clinical Menu". The right side of screen will say "EXIT."


Press the left button under the word "Menu."

The left side of the screen will now say "Settings Enter."

Press the left button under the word "Enter."



Suggestion: Walk completely through the menu MAKING NO CHANGES the first time through. Have pen and paper handy. As you go through the menu items, write down every word, every number, every symbol you see on the screen. If you make changes later and decide you don't like the change, you'll have your notes of the original settings.


If using the S8 Vantage autopap, the first setting which can be changed appears:

"Mode" (operating mode) with the word "Change" under it.

To see what modes of operation the machine can use, press the LEFT button under the word "Change." Don't worry. No change actually happens or is saved when you press "Change."

The screen will now have the word APPLY on the left side. DO NOT press the left button under the word "Apply.

Use the up/down doubleheaded arrow button to toggle through the changes that could be made to that setting.


If you have been toggling through the possible changes that could be made to a setting, but DON'T want to really make a change, press the RIGHT button under the word EXIT -- even if a setting that's different from your original setting is showing. That takes you out of the "Apply" screen and takes you back to the screen with the word "Change."
As long as you did not press the Left button when you see the word "Apply" on the screen, no changes were made even if you had been using the doubleheaded up/down arrow button to scroll through the possible changes and couldn't remember what the original setting was. It will revert to the original setting no matter what setting is showing on the screen when you exit...unless you have pressed the button under the word "Apply."

If you DO want to make a change to the setting you're looking at and the word APPLY is showing on the screen, press the LEFT button under the word "Apply." The change you just made to that setting is automatically saved and will be used the next time you start the blower.


While looking at any screen that has the word "Change" showing, you can go to the next menu item by using the up/down doubleheaded arrow button. With "Change" showing on the screen, the up/down button works like a browser back/forward button, letting you go either direction through the menu.


To get out of the "Apply" screen without actually making a permanent change in the setting, use the RIGHThand button under the word "EXIT." Exit will take you out of the "Apply" screen, back to the "Change" screen.


When you are looking at any screen that has the word "Change", you can use the up/down arrow button to go backward and forward through the menu. Whenever the word "Change" is on the screen, the up/down arrow button works like a browser backward/forward button.


To exit completely out of the clinical setup menu at any time, press the "Exit" button about four times. Using the Exit button that many times will be sure to get you completely out of the clinical setup menu.

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Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:29 pm
by Wulfman...
And, you need to check the data before Noon.


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Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:36 pm
by Pugsy
Wulfman... wrote:And, you need to check the data before Noon.
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting this important piece of information since I never look at the machine's data.

With the ResMed machines a new day is started at noon (per the machine's clock) and the previous nights data gets reset to zero.
There is a way to go in and get the older data but takes a bit of work...not horrible work though.

Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:45 pm
by Wulfman...
Solameya wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Your current machine is fully data-capable and will display a fair amount of information about your nightly details in the LCD screen.
You could also have it checked by your DME to see that it's putting out the proper pressure.

It sounds like it's way past time to take control of your own therapy.


Den

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I'm confused about the data it's displaying.
Here's what I see:

Ramp: off
Used Hours: 15270
Usage: 2093/2295
Mask: Standard (I have an option to change this, but my current mask is not an option)
SW: SX4800100

If I'm not eligible for a new machine, I will ask the DME to check this one.
Regarding mask options: I believe you're using a nasal pillows mask. So, you would select the "Swift" option.

Den
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Settings - Mask

ULTRA - Ultra Mirage Nasal Mask

MIR FULL - Mirage Full Face Mask
Mirage Full Face Mask Series 2
Ultra Mirage Full Face Mask
ResMed Hospital Full Face Mask

ACTIVA - Mirage Activa Nasal Mask

SWIFT - Mirage Swift Nasal Pillows System

MIRAGE - Mirage Nasal Mask

STANDARD - Mirage Vista Nasal Mask
Modular Nasal Mask
Papillon

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Re: Time for a New Machine?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:45 pm
by Solameya
After many conversations with my doc, my medical supplier, and my insurance company; I was able to get new a fully data capable machine. It should show up below. I am excited to learn how to use it's data capabilities to get better treatment for my sleep apnea. My pressure is still set at 11. I should be getting a copy of my sleep study results when I see my doc next week. Apparently, I can't get them unless I sign a release at the Doc's office. What a hassle!