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Goofproof wrote:Just a thought, most of our cars are filled with hi-grade electronics, they are in the same environment all the time, why don't they fail... Jim

are they designed for that environment? the cpap can't handle a fall from the night stand.

Wulfman... wrote:

Goofproof wrote:Just a thought, most of our cars are filled with hi-grade electronics, they are in the same environment all the time, why don't they fail... Jim

But, Jim.......they DO!
I've put a small fortune in our car in the last year with fixing "Check Engine" lights and other things that failed.


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Now,now, electrical tape isn't expensive. ... I have a 2009 GMC with 10,000 miles on it, it's amazing, Never had a electrical part fail, even a bulb, too bad when I needed a good ride, I always had to drive what other people would call junk, but being a mechanic it was junk on the outside, but gold where it counted. I do carry that roll of tape in the glove box, unopened. Jim

BlackSpinner wrote: Better to use gel ice packs in a plastic bag in a cooler. If it works for beer it will work for this.

This was at the end of our 3 day stay; and the motel fridge had no freezer.
I use the packs when a freezer is handy--sometimes it is not.
Edit: I always thought it would be awesome to be able to buy gel ice pre-frozen.

chunkyfrog wrote:

BlackSpinner wrote: Better to use gel ice packs in a plastic bag in a cooler. If it works for beer it will work for this.

This was at the end of our 3 day stay; and the motel fridge had no freezer.
I use the packs when a freezer is handy--sometimes it is not.
Edit: I always thought it would be awesome to be able to buy gel ice pre-frozen.

The bad thing about "Gel Ice", its one more thing to polute our envirement, real ice doesn't polute. The V.A. no longer allows a three month supply of insulin. They ship a one month supply, in the same box with gel ice every month. To add even more waste, I require two different types of insulin they don't ship them together, so you get twice the waste and pollution and shipping costs, I get 3 times the bother ordering my required med's, thank you Obama. Way to save! (This has just been put into effect this Obama Year)

I think they count on us not reordering needed medicine that was prescribed by their doctor, to save money....ll jim

Goofproof wrote:Just a thought, most of our cars are filled with hi-grade electronics, they are in the same environment all the time, why don't they fail... Jim

Today's cars have loads of electronics in them to be sure. HOWEVER, they are generally designed with components that are intended to be in extreme environments and that is the difference. Equipment that is intended to be used or stored indoors in a somewhat controlled environment use cheaper components that are NOT intended nor built for extreme invironments. Case in point... equipment identical to earthbound equipment being used on the International Space Station generally costs 10 - 20 times as much and being familiar with some of this equipment I can tell you that one of the main reasons is that each component is designed for us in space. It is either for extreme environment, protected from various sources of radiation, etc. (or all). You get what you pay for. A handheld radio transceiver that would cost $500 for use on Earth in a somewhat controlled environment, can cost $10,000 when designed for use on the ISS. Just one example.

palerider wrote:

torontoCPAPguy wrote:First I would check the manual or spec sheet for the gear being carried. First and foremost.

um, you might notice that information has already been posted in the thread.

I understand your point; MY point was simply to emphasize, and then to suggest that asides from OPERATING temperatures we need to consider static environment (i.e. transport, etc.) which can also do damage. To be sublime, try dunking that CPAP in some liquid nitrogen and then putting it in a normal room environment and turning it on. VOILA!

torontoCPAPguy wrote: I understand your point; MY point was simply to emphasize, and then to suggest that asides from OPERATING temperatures we need to consider static environment (i.e. transport, etc.) which can also do damage. To be sublime, try dunking that CPAP in some liquid nitrogen and then putting it in a normal room environment and turning it on. VOILA!

well, now, that is the stupidest thing I've heard today, and that's saying something, becuase the now first runner up was pretty stupid.

had you bothered to read the thread, instead of just posting your drivel after reading part of the first post, you'd have seen that the non-operating temps were also posted, and your ... 'point' about trying a ln2 bath would take the unit outside of it's non-operating storage parameters.

of course, computer people do this kind of thing all the time when playing with overclocking, even though the components aren't rated for somewhere south of -196c