Airsense 11 or 10?

My wife's Airsense 10 is displaying a warning that blower hours are now more than its design life. I've started to look for a replacement is there any preference between another Airsense 10 versus an Airsense 11? We're not in a big rush as we have a backup machine. Plus she lost her prescription in our last move so there'll be a delay while we sort that out.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:25 am

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Let's see if Dog Slobber wants to offer an opinion.

Since you have a backup machine, so this is not urgent, you might consider having your AirSense 10 refurbished with a new motor, seals, and zeroing out the hours on your motherboard. You can have that done for less than $300, including shipping both ways. Mine is still with them so I can't review their work yet, but they get good reviews.

I'm not sure if we can link to vendors or not, so in an abundance of caution, I'll PM you where I sent mine for work.

JOinPA wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:44 pm

I'm not sure if we can link to vendors or not

It is allowed. This is the one most often recommended - https://acbio.com/cpap-repair/

JOinPA wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:44 pm

Since you have a backup machine, so this is not urgent, you might consider having your AirSense 10 refurbished with a new motor, seals, and zeroing out the hours on your motherboard. You can have that done for less than $300, including shipping both ways.

Why would this be recommended? His AS10 might last for years after the message appears.

True, it may last for years after the message appears. But if the current machine fails and then the old one fails, instead of having a ready backup they'll be without a machine for a bit.

There are two types of people in the world, those that squeeze the last penny out of something, and those that are willing for forgo that last pennies to stay ahead of things. Neither is "right" or "wrong", they are just different perspectives. For example at my last car checkup my mechanic said the pads had some life left, did I want to replace them or wait. My answer was, "If they'll last till the next scheduled maintenance, leave them, if you don't think they will, replace them." I'd rather replace them with a little life left than schedule another appointment for just that and risk gouging my rotors. Others would lose sleep over replacing the pads a couple thousand miles early. Whatever.

I got my current AS 10 for about $400 less when they were discontinued and before they brought them back. I sent my older AS10 out for refurbishing admittedly before it "needed" it, but now I have a like new backup. I'm happier with my situation than trying to run the old machine until it dies. It's simple personal choice, no right or wrong answer here.

P.S. I did not "recommend" refurbishing early, also. The OP indicated he was looking (in leisurely fashion since he has a backup) for a new machine. I recommended reburbishing the old one as an alternative to purchasing a new one.

To bring this back to the original question is there a reason to favor either the AS 11 or AS 10 as they both appear to be available?

I would buy the 10

Most people who have tried both do not find the differences very meaningful. The 11 uses a touchscreen while the 10 uses the control knob, that sort of thing. People who use the climateline tubing, like me, tend to prefer the 90-degree attachment elbow for the 10 as opposed to the straight off the back connection of the 11, but again, that's a small thing. The ResMed Airsense 10 has a well-deserved reputation for going well beyond the anticipated 5-year service life, and the 11 may, also, but has not been around long enough to build up evidence in this regard. The 11 can get software updates remotely, the 10 cannot.

Here is a website with a comparison of the two:
https://www.cpap.com/blogs/reviews/airsense-11-review

The price difference is about $45-ish (11 is higher). Both are very popular, I think it's a tough choice, almost a toss-up. Good luck!

P.S. I forgot, the 11 has a "for her" setting, whereas the AirSense 10 is a separate model. Not sure how significant that is, either.

CaptPat wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:16 am

To bring this back to the original question is there a reason to favor either the AS 11 or AS 10 as they both appear to be available?

Personal preference, but I will go with another trusty AirSense 10 AutoSet. I've seen too many complaints about the 11.

CaptPat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:25 am

Plus she lost her prescription in our last move so there'll be a delay while we sort that out.

Does she have a copy of her study? If not, can she still get a copy from the clinic that diagnosed her? Any doctor can write a CPAP prescription, but they many want to have in their file a copy of the diagnosis. My family doctor has been perfectly cooperative in writing a new one for me each year.

CaptPat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:25 am

We're not in a big rush as we have a backup machine.

My insurance company pays for a new machine every five years. I'm due one in March. If it's under $1200, they don't require preapproval. However, my DME will get preapproval because they have had problems with customers who didn't understand their insurance benefits.

I have working units of both APAPs and I am staying with the 11. I have used Model 10s for years, but switched to a Model 11 a few months ago. Differences have been mentioned earlier in this thread, but I like the more modern look and smaller size (not as tall). The power brick is much smaller than the 10's and along with the smaller size of the 11, the travel case is also much smaller.

The touch screen is an improvement over the mechanical switches used on the 10. It has all of ResMed's APAP therapy profiles although I switched to CPAP Mode several months ago and have not looked back (used CPAP Mode in both models).

Things that I do not like are:
1) Clock is set during the day 1 startup/programming and the user has to pick the GWT Zone that the machine will be used in. No standard clock setting, or ability to change time zones without a new SD Card and restarting the machine from the out-of-the-box settings. Really a stupid idea not allowing the user to easily change the clock setting like the M10.
2) The input DC connector is a real oddball unlike any thing that I have seen. I have a Pilot Lite and it sits in parallel between the power brick and the M11. Since the DC input connector is very strange I had to do a couple minutes of searching to find a compatible Pilot to M11 DC cable.
3) Main hose connector on the 11 is a straight plug-in, not rotating like the M10. I wonder what fool thought that one up. Probably saved ResMed a couple dollars.

Kind of a toss-up overall, but like said, I have fully functional M10s & 11s and I am staying with the 11.

sptrout wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:16 pm

smaller size (not as tall). The power brick is much smaller than the 10's and along with the smaller size of the 11, the travel case is also much smaller.

I use the 10 with the side plate replacing the humidifier. With the humidifier space in the 10 empty, my FFM has a nice compartment for carrying. I'm getting a new machine in March and thinking about space in the travel case. Maybe I need to go to a DME and have a look at the 11 and case beside the 10. ???

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:17 pm

Maybe I need to go to a DME and have a look at the 11 and case beside the 10. ???

Well......I just laid out the AirCurve 10 travel case along with the travel case for the airSense 11 and I couldn't tell any difference at all and if anything the Airsense 11 case might be a wee bit bigger.

I tried to get a picture but I can't get it off the phone to email it to myself to get it on the laptop and then into Imgur.
Sorry.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:17 pm

sptrout wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:16 pm

smaller size (not as tall). The power brick is much smaller than the 10's and along with the smaller size of the 11, the travel case is also much smaller.

I use the 10 with the side plate replacing the humidifier. With the humidifier space in the 10 empty, my FFM has a nice compartment for carrying. I'm getting a new machine in March and thinking about space in the travel case. Maybe I need to go to a DME and have a look at the 11 and case beside the 10. ???

I have bypass modules for both Models. I live near Houston so our humidity and outdoor temperature varies all the time. We had a hard freeze and snow last week, next week in the low 80s. Anyway, I go back and forth with the bypass module.

The M11 case is not as deep as the M10s case, doesn't have to be since the M11 is shorter. The difference is minor so I would not use that as buy/no buy decision maker. The other points that I and others have made are more important.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:17 pm

With the humidifier space in the 10 empty, my FFM has a nice compartment for carrying.

This sentence looks fractured. I'll try again.

"With the humidifier compartment in the 10 empty, the space is nice for carrying my FFM."