What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

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What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by Jtg073 » Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm

Can I see screenshots of what a perfect (or close to it) night of sleep looks like on Oscar?

I’m sure Flow Limitations and leaks should be almost nonexistent, but what does a perfect Flow Rate and Resp Rate look like? Tidal Volume? Do you care about looking at things like Minute Vent, Insp Time, and Exp Time? Should Flow Rate be a thin bold line with very few spikes? I know you want to zoom in to get a better look at what’s going on, but when you’re zoomed out should it look like a thin bold line or a thick one?

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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by LSAT » Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:13 pm

If I have a perfect night sleep, the only thing I am concerned with on Oscar is my AHI.

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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by palerider » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:27 pm

Jtg073 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Can I see screenshots of what a perfect (or close to it) night of sleep looks like on Oscar?
I don't know that there's any such thing as a "perfect night".

Sleep varies all night long, as you move through different sleep phases. Your breathing isn't going to stay the same in REM and NREM sleep.
Jtg073 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
I’m sure Flow Limitations and leaks should be almost nonexistent, but what does a perfect Flow Rate and Resp Rate look like?
Again, breathing will likely vary in different sleep stages, so while an even flow rate is good, that won't be a constant.
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Tidal Volume? Do you care about looking at things like Minute Vent, Insp Time, and Exp Time?
I rarely ever look at anyone's TV (which is the same as MV, only one's per breath and one's a minute average. most of the data past the top 6 (flags, flow, leaks, pressure, snore and flow limits) are only there because the data is available, not because they're of much use in most cases.
Jtg073 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Should Flow Rate be a thin bold line with very few spikes? I know you want to zoom in to get a better look at what’s going on, but when you’re zoomed out should it look like a thin bold line or a thick one?
That all depends on what Y axis scale is on the chart, and that varies, so there's no way to answer that question, you can make the exact same flow strip look like a thin line or a thick one just by adjusting the Y axis.

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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by zonker » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:34 pm

Jtg073 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Can I see screenshots of what a perfect (or close to it) night of sleep looks like on Oscar?
can you define "a perfect night of sleep"?

let me assure you or anyone reading that i am NOT being a smart alec. nor am i being pedantic. or playing any semantics games.

it's a legitimate question because what you are asking is subjective. a perfect night by my definition is certainly not going to be the same as yours. it's going to depend on myriad factors.

and some of it is going to be beyond the scope of what oscar can report because it's pretty much going to depend on other factors outside of sleep apnea.

are you thinking that if you see this mythical oscar report of perfect sleep, you'll only have to do exactly the same and it will turn out perfect for you too? because i can pretty much guarantee that won't work.

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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by robysue1 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:48 am

Jtg073 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Can I see screenshots of what a perfect (or close to it) night of sleep looks like on Oscar?
Oscar can't tell you if you've had a "perfect" night of sleep. Your body does that: If you wake up feeling really refreshed and raring to go with lots of energy and feeing great, you've had a perfect or near perfect night's sleep.

I’m sure Flow Limitations and leaks should be almost nonexistent, but what does a perfect Flow Rate and Resp Rate look like?
It depends on what is causing the flow limitations. But in general, on a good night's sleep, both Flow Limitations and Snoring should be pretty rare or nonexistent.

As for Flow Rate? If you zoom in so you can see the individual breaths, they all should look alike: Nice regular breathing all night long with relatively few breathing irregularities that might indicate spontaneous arousals. (But note: You won't ever eliminate spontaneous arousals---they can occur naturally when you turn over in bed. And it's normal to arouse or wake briefly after each full sleep cycle, even in people with really great sleep and no sleep problems at all.)

but what does a perfect Flow Rate and Resp Rate look like? Tidal Volume? Do you care about looking at things like Minute Vent, Insp Time, and Exp Time?
Respiratory rate, tidal volume, minute ventilation, inspiratory time, expiratory time vary from individual to individual and there are wide ranges of "normal". If you are feeling decent when you wake up, these things are all curiosities rather than useful data. Even if you are not feeling decent, these things don't typically say much about how well your machine is treating sleep disordered breathing.

Now if you have a known respiratory problem other than sleep disordered breathing, then one or more of these things might be important, but you'd have to learn why they are (or are not) important to a person with asthma, COPD, or other respiratory problems that are not part of sleep disordered breathing.

Should Flow Rate be a thin bold line with very few spikes? I know you want to zoom in to get a better look at what’s going on, but when you’re zoomed out should it look like a thin bold line or a thick one?
Unless you zoom in, Flow Rate is never going to be a thin bold line. But you are correct, when there are fewer big spikes in the overall graph, then there is a higher likely hood of a lower number of spontaneous arousals and long periods of sleep-wake-junk where you are not quite asleep, but you are also not really awake.

But here's the important thing: Chasing a "perfect set of data" in Oscar is not likely to improve your sleep once the obvious problems caused by sleep disordered breathing have been dealt with by the appropriate settings on an xPAP machine. At that point, fixing any remaining problems with bad sleep, means identifying the non-sleep disordered breathing causes of the bad sleep and addressing them.
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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:47 am

zonker wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:34 pm
. . .
it's a legitimate question because what you are asking is subjective. a perfect night by my definition is certainly not going to be the same as yours.
. . .
I agree.
For some, it's waking up dry, without pain, or next to their dream date;
for others, it is simply waking up.

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Re: What does a perfect night of sleep look like on Oscar?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:57 pm

Near the end of the next day, make a subjective review of how you did during the day. Any excess sleepiness? Excess fatigue? Good energy level for most of the day?
LSAT wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:13 pm
If I have a perfect night sleep, the only thing I am concerned with on Oscar is my AHI.
Yep, and mask leak. All can be seen on the machine display.