OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:13 am

Ceepapi wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:14 pm
Is it possible for the person(s) who looks after the OSCAR coding to add the F&P SleepStyle "Central Apneas" into the next OSCAR update? ...Please. :)
According to Lanky Lefty (Jason, Registered Thicccccccc Polysomnographic Technologist) and Guy Scharf (BlueDragon, OSCAR developer), on ApneaBoard, the F&P SleepStyle does not differentiate the Central and Obstructive Apneas, reporting both as Apneas.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... #pid414510
TheLankyLefty wrote:The only thing I noticed was that (I believe you told me this already) it doesn’t differentiate Central vs. OSA, but instead labels it as “Apnea.” Overall not a problem since they are inappropriately tagged often.
BlueDragon wrote:Regarding CA and OA, I have no idea how the SleepStyle works internally; I just know what it reports. As far as OSCAR is concerned, combing the two types of apneas into one just required some code adjustments to report the data as InfoSmart reported it.
*UPDATE*
Earlier n the topic an F&P InfoSmart graphic was displayed that shows the capability differentiating between CAs and OAs.

This suggests on of the following:
  1. Lanky Lefty and the OSCAR team are incorrect and the SleepStyle does differentiate and report OAs and CAs, but the data is encoded in such a way that the OSCAR development team isn't aware of the difference.
  2. The SleepStyle doesn't differentiate between the OAs and CAs in the reporting, but the InfoSmart software reevaluates the raw reported data and evaluates whether it's an OA or CA when generating the report.
  3. There has been an update to the SleepStyle reported data since LL and BD commented and or the OSCAR team worked on the SleepStyle data import.

In either case it's a pretty safe assumption that the OSCAR team made an attempt to report on OAs and CAs and was not able to, thus the row header of A (for Apneas) and Guy Scharf's comment.
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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:44 am

Per InfoSmart....centrals are separated.....at least now.
I don't know when it changed but change it did.

https://resources.fphcare.com/content/i ... 046589.pdf

https://resources.fphcare.com/content/i ... 620527.pdf

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by palerider » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:58 pm

Ceepapi wrote:
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palerider wrote:
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Ceepapi wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:27 pm
Whoa.. thanks for your concern with my "CRAZY AMOUNT OF OBSTRUCTIVES!" Please (as a newbie to CPAP machines) can you kindly give me some advice on the best way to help lower my obstructives..
Please to be posting an Oscar chart, without the box covering up a lot of what we want to see.
Here is the latest one
Ok, I'd suggest a minimum pressure of 9, and reduce whatever 'pressure relief' the F&P uses. (sorry, I don't know the term, they're pretty rare machines here, but I can see the pressure varying per breath in the mask pressure trace.

Raising the min pressure will help with the large number of obstructives and hypopneas, reducing the pressure relief *may* help with the centrals.

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by Ceepapi » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:58 am

OP is hitting the max, I'd suggest raising that too.
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Sorry if I am dumb... What is "OP" stand for.

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by ozij » Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:03 am

Standard internet forum-speak for "Original Poster". ie -- the person who started the thread. Yourself in this case.

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by BlueDragon » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:43 pm

Dog Slobber wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:13 am
In either case it's a pretty safe assumption that the OSCAR team made an attempt to report on OAs and CAs and was not able to, thus the row header of A (for Apneas) and Guy Scharf's comment.
Exactly. And, at the time, InfoSmart was not distinguishing OAs and CAs either. If InfoSmart is now reporting the events separately, the OSCAR team could re-examine the issue.

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Re: OSCAR not flagging Clear Airway CA

Post by BlueDragon » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:06 pm

Ceepapi wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:06 am
I just got a copy of my F&P InfoSmart patient report app and it shows that I had 29 CA's during the night, which was noted as not a good thing..... On the same night the Oscar app did not flag any CA's. I had previously set up Clear Airway (CA) (flagged and ticked both boxes) in the preferences/events.
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