Bleep Adhesive

I appreciate the offer but I actually already ordered some via Amazon and they will be here tomorrow. It was the "it was like pulling off stuck concrete the next morning. It didn't take off a layer of skin but I sure thought it would." comment that sold me

Hoping I have the same experience with these!

Okay...you are like me...short in the patience department.

Do the face washing and cavilon right before bedtime....not early in the evening.

My 2¢
Cavilon wipes work great!!! BUT, they are almost a dollar a day (prices vary, but it’s pretty common to pay $20/25 wipes)

Smith-nephew skin prep wipes didn’t work as well, but then I read somewhere, that some people had better luck with 2 “coats”. 15-20 minutes before bed when I’m reading or watching TV, I use a skin-prep wipe on my nose, let it dry, then use same wipe a second time. After it dries, I put my bleeps on, brush teeth etc. before heading to bed. It’s not just alcohol, I can feel the film on my skin. Much cheaper @ $8/50 wipes.

Good luck!!

Thanks all!

As luck would have it I had my yearly physical with my primary care today. While he is not exactly familiar with CPAP equipment or Bleep Eclipse (thought I did show him a photo of it on my phone and he was impressed) I did tell him about what was going on. He agreed that Cavilon wipes should do the trick. He actually checked around the office for a few to give me to try out but they didn't have any. Unfortunately they are just a primary care office and so likely didn't have any use to keep them in stock.

The good news is he told me that if I try them out and they work well to let him know and he can write me an RX for them. This way they come out cheaper. How much cheaper I don't know yet.

Fingers crossed!

Does the Eclipse Halos leave a red mark on your face? They did for me but the Dreamports actually don't do that. I believe the Halos have a much stronger adhesive, at least in my experience. I'm guessing you didn't use the Dreamports prior to the Halos?
Please let me know if the wipes work because I have the same issue and I do believe I have sensitive skin as well. Witch hazel wipes used to do the trick , but I think the cold dry winter air is causing me to break out with it maybe?

jlsmithseven wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:57 pm

Does the Eclipse Halos leave a red mark on your face? They did for me but the Dreamports actually don't do that. I believe the Halos have a much stronger adhesive, at least in my experience. I'm guessing you didn't use the Dreamports prior to the Halos?
Please let me know if the wipes work because I have the same issue and I do believe I have sensitive skin as well. Witch hazel wipes used to do the trick , but I think the cold dry winter air is causing me to break out with it maybe?

Yes, it's started leaving red marks on my face. This is relatively new for the Halos but I have had this in the past with other bandages. I think it's a combination of my skin being sensitive and me being a bit of a brute when I remove adhesive. I also have been using the isopropyl alcohol instead of the witch hazel lately because of the issues I've been having lately with the leaking. Using the stronger astringent likely isn't helping the matter I would imagine. I never did try the Dreamports.

Last night I used a new facial cleanser for sensitive and oily skin, then I used witch hazel because I felt my face could use a break from the stronger astringent. I woke up a few hours later with leaking again. I pressed the adhesive against my skin and fell back asleep. Normally this either doesn't work at all or only works for a little while and then it starts leaking again. I got extremely lucky last night and for some reason this actually worked the rest of the night and I didn't wake up again.

Today I get my shipment of Cavilon wipes, I'll let you all know how they work!

I honestly can't wait to participate more in this conversation and felt this might be an ok place to ask.

Are you guys having trouble getting more of the bleep adhesive ports?

I spoke with Aeroflow yesterday and they are on back order which is why I am unable to get my new eclipse mask.

I hope you folks arent having issues with supply chain and maybe it is just Aeroflow?

Best to all of you.

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:29 am

I honestly can't wait to participate more in this conversation and felt this might be an ok place to ask.

Are you guys having trouble getting more of the bleep adhesive ports?

I spoke with Aeroflow yesterday and they are on back order which is why I am unable to get my new eclipse mask.

I hope you folks arent having issues with supply chain and maybe it is just Aeroflow?

Best to all of you.

I ordered the 3 month package via Sure Seal and it came rather quickly, but that was about a month ago.

Update - I used the Cavilon wipes last night for the first time.

Can confirm the Cavilon wipes resolved the issues I was having with the Eclipse adhesive! My prep was just washing my face with soap and water, drying thoroughly, and then applying the Cavilon wipe to all the places on my nose and face where the halo generally sits. I did not use isopropyl alcohol or witch hazel.

After you apply the Cavilon wipe give it 30 - 60 seconds to dry. Once it's dry it almost kind of feels like you put a thin layer of glue on your face. Then apply the halos as you normally would. It definitely felt more secure than it normally does and when I woke up it was still firmly in place. I did not have the experience I've been having lately where the adhesive is loose and leaking everywhere.

When it was time to remove the halo, that was also much easier. Normally I have to peel it off my face and often it is painful and leaves red marks. In this case I was just peeling it off the Cavilon skin barrier so it was painless. Then I washed my face with soap and water to remove the skin barrier.

Going to give it a few more nights to confirm that the results are consistent and that there are no effects on my skin after repeated uses but if this experience holds up this will likely become my new routine.

Sounds like a lengthy routine but if it work’s consistent I would do it as well. Curious to see how most nights go with it, have you been leak free for the most part and staying asleep?

Corgan: glad the cavilon wipes worked for you! I know several people who use it (for medical reasons other then bleeps).

Tip: Sometimes the cavilon film builds up and/or is resistant to soap and water. If you experience this, it can be removed with isopropyl alcohol.

I will be curious if insurance covers yours. Mine didn't.
If they don't, private message me, and I can probably send you a couple smith&nephew wipes to try. If your skin isn't excessively oily, like mine, you may not need 2 coats, and then the process would the same as cavilon.

Lynn: As far as eclipse availability, I know several people, including myself waiting on aeroflow. I was concerned early on that dme availability would be limited (not uncommon for new products in any category as production usually starts slow, then builds). It's why I sprung for the pre-sale option from sureseal. I had to pay out-of-pocket for my first 3 months, but hopefully by the end of march (when I will run out), the supply chain issues will be worked out!

Good luck!

Thanks Jimmy, do the others you know who use cavilon do anything special to their skin before putting the barrier on? I just used soap and water but thought about maybe doing witch hazel too to make sure all the oil on my skin was gone.

I asked my wife about this (in-house medical consultant/MD). She said the key is “clean and dry”. Sometimes that means using anti-bacterial solutions prior, but in this application, it’s just clean and dry. No additional astringent is necessary.

Side question: have you had any problems with the rings detaching? I'm thinking it's a quality control issue. I'm on my 3rd box. 1st box rings detached 12-14 nights out of 16. 2nd & 3rd boxes have had no issues. Not really surprised. Early adopters are often 2nd round of beta testing. Hope it doesn't delay full production to DME's.

JimmyStewart wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:42 am

Side question: have you had any problems with the rings detaching? I'm thinking it's a quality control issue. I'm on my 3rd box. 1st box rings detached 12-14 nights out of 16. 2nd & 3rd boxes have had no issues. Not really surprised. Early adopters are often 2nd round of beta testing. Hope it doesn't delay full production to DME's.

First and second boxes I didn't have any of the rings come loose.
Third box I have had 2 come loose...one about10 days ago and one last night.
I examine the Halos closely each time I apply them to look for potential adhesive issues (since I know there have been some problems) and I can't spot anything visually that could maybe explain the rings coming loose. Doesn't mean much...just means I can't see anything.
Stuart is well aware of this potential issue and they are actively trying to sort it out and fix it.

Now I am starting to wonder if I got a "bad box" because last night I had adhesive issues despite using Cavilon wipes. I will say that I occasionally see that the ring sometimes isn't perfectly centered on the halo, but that generally hasn't caused me any issues.

The leaking isn't happening around the ring area, not for me anyways, instead it's like the adhesive just gives up after a couple of hours.