Gas Stoves and Apnea

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:04 pm

now, i just need to get a propane powered backup for my internet.

Son, ain't you heard of solar panels and batterie... oh, right, you live in the PNW, nevermind

loggerhead12 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:55 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:04 pm

now, i just need to get a propane powered backup for my internet.

Most of the time your internet won't go down just because the power does. I got a baby UPS, the smallest one, and plugged the cable modem and wifi router into it. I can go without power for 8 hours and binge-watch Sons of Anarchy the whole time.

no, i meant as a separate failure altogether. we're using astound broadband(for internet only). while it doesn't happen often and it comes back very quickly, it's still a pain to be without it when i want it!

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:25 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:04 pm

now, i just need to get a propane powered backup for my internet.

Son, ain't you heard of solar panels and batterie... oh, right, you live in the PNW, nevermind

i'm tellin' ya, with climate change, we are actually seeing more and more sunny days here in the winter. mind you, it's dark by five o'clock, but still.....

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:44 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:25 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:04 pm

now, i just need to get a propane powered backup for my internet.

Son, ain't you heard of solar panels and batterie... oh, right, you live in the PNW, nevermind

i'm tellin' ya, with climate change, we are actually seeing more and more sunny days here in the winter. mind you, it's dark by five o'clock, but still.....

Ok, then my advice is back on the table (or, off it, as the Brit's say)

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:04 pm

i'm privileged in that while our house is all electric, we have a whole house generator which comes on by itself if it notes a 20 second loss of power in the house.

yea, this generator runs on propane. but that tank is outside thirty feet from the house. so nothing that could be considered potentially harmful is released into the house atmosphere. unless, of course, i'm seriously mistaken.

am damned glad we have it. it's gotten us through three outages since it's installation last fall.

now, i just need to get a propane powered backup for my internet.

if power goes out, you can still get internet. I use a piplink router. I connect it to a 100 amp lithium battery. my iPad run off the internal battery. when its time to recharge my battery. I plug my battery charger in my generator. I use gas. if you want propane. you need the propane adapter. 20 or 30 pound tank is all you need. I also have a 200 watt solar panel. solar is ok but its not dependable for my area. I hardly get some sun here. solar is very expensive. its not for everyone.

All gas appliances here: Stove and oven, furnace, dryer, hot water heater. There's no money to change even one appliance out, let alone all of them. We have (as required by law in California) a carbon monoxide monitor, and with the exception of the stove, everything else is in the garage.

My asthma was bad when I was baking all of the family's bread, but I think it was from burning parchment and flour (or the gluten grains I was consuming), not from the gas oven. I don't bake or eat bread anymore, we still have the gas stove, and I'm off all of my asthma meds and doing very well. I don't notice any difference between summer --when we don't use our oven because we have no AC--or winter when we use it a lot more.

I'm sad that when and if we ever can/need to replace these appliances we won't have a gas stove anymore. I love the responsiveness of cooking with gas. We have a lot of heavy cast iron and enamel pans, and I know an induction cooktop will quickly look horrible or get broken because my mild-mannered husband (the cook in the family) regularly slams pots on the stove and swears when things are just right in cooking. It's not going I'm hoping we can replace our forced air gas furnace with heat pump split units in each room to have AC without having to do a lot of expensive duct work.

I would like to see an induction cooktop with a kind of light show,
like the comforting flames seen on a gas range. I would consider one.
I see electric fireplaces with simulated flames--why not a cooktop?
I understand existing systems can be grandfathered in; but replacements
may be a major black market unless new stoves have this option.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:58 pm

I would like to see an induction cooktop with a kind of light show,
like the comforting flames seen on a gas range. I would consider one.

HAH! fake electronic flames licking up the side of the pan, genius!

Since induction is the most efficient, what's a pretty light show to help sell it?
The absense of visual feedback is significant in people's reluctance to
cooking with watts--what you can't see can still burn you just as easily
as residual heat on the grate after a real fire is out.

... and a laser show from the hood. Flames on a thick-cut T-bone in the cast iron skillet.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:16 am

... and a laser show from the hood. Flames on a thick-cut T-bone in the cast iron skillet.

Do not stare into pretty laser with remaining eye.