Just can't sleep with my mask on!

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by joepublic23 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:06 am

Won’t cutting the AHI cut the snoring? I do wake up with light headaches sometimes and occasional brain fog, but it quickly goes away. Sometimes I feel weary in the afternoon, but I attribute that to simply not getting enough sleep overall since I only get about 6 hours per night on weekdays.

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by GrumpyHere » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:32 am

Pugsy wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:59 am
but I am betting with the ultra super sensitive sensory issues and general problems falling asleep....it wouldn't work out well.
If he can't stand a wedding ring touching him....I doubt seriously that having something attached to his tongue, sucking on it, is ever going to happen and have sleep happen with it.
The pump stops running when the device measured enough partial vacuum.

Instead of pressing the tongue against the roof of the mouth to stop chipmunk cheeks, my tongue was involuntarily pressed against the roof of the mouth by the partial vacuum.

It supposedly tensions the tongue like a MAD. It might stop the snoring.

In regards to hyper sensory issues, joe has the goal of a happy wife, he needs to power through it. Or sleep in separate bedrooms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by Pugsy » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:39 am

joepublic23 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:06 am
Won’t cutting the AHI cut the snoring? I do wake up with light headaches sometimes and occasional brain fog, but it quickly goes away. Sometimes I feel weary in the afternoon, but I attribute that to simply not getting enough sleep overall since I only get about 6 hours per night on weekdays.
No guarantee that it will reduce or eliminate the snoring to the point that the wife doesn't have a problem.

All this stuff comes with a YMMV sticker that covers snoring as well.

You have to try it and see...and you have to fall asleep as well...before you know for sure if it/anything gives you the desired results.

As for snoring itself....snoring itself can disrupt sleep. Then the disrupted sleep, which means not good quality sleep, can then cause some of the symptoms you may feel.
Then add on the fact that you are only usually getting 6 hours of very likely disturbed sleep...recipe for everyone to feel like crap. You, the wife....everyone.
It's no so much the AHI itself either....it's the disrupted sleep in general that is the big problem...that along with the fact that 6 hours of sleep simply isn't enough sleep for people even if it wasn't disrupted sleep.
Hell, even 8 or 9 hours of sleep that is disrupted by a lot of snores (even without OSA diagnosis) isn't a guarantee that the snores won't be a problem.

I have thought and thought and thought of any way there might be to reduce your snoring that doesn't involve something touching you and I can't think of anything.
The Inspire procedure wasn't designed for snoring....it was designed for opening the airway when the collapsing of the tissues happen. That procedure comes with baggage as well...even if you could qualify (which I seriously doubt they would even do the surgery on you).

Everything in life comes with some sort of baggage or potentially unwanted associated risks or problems.

You have some entirely wrong preconceived notions about how cpap works and what can fix the problem and some very unrealistic expectations about all this OSA and therapy stuff.
This is a cpap help forum....not an "I hate cpap forum" so what do you expect from us here???
This isn't even a sleep apnea alternative forum....it's a cpap help forum.

You have come up with every reason possible for not doing anything because you "can't do this or that" or you don't want "a scar" or you are worried about "getting zapped"...which BTW I do have a device implanted that does zap me and it zaps me directly to my spinal cord...you sleep through it.

Until you can get rid of your unrealistic expectations you aren't going to be successful and I don't know that you can do that....yet. Maybe when the wife officially moves out and decorates the guest bedroom to suit her you will get a wake up call and decide that you REALLY want this to work because until you make that decision you are going to fail.
I have never in my life met anyone with the negative attitude that you have. You top the list of "yes, butt" people and the long timers here remember the "don't be a butthead" thread. Remember that one folks????

You aren't the first to look for and find every reason imaginable, to fail or just quit or not try, at just about anything that might help you.
You are number one on that list though....pretty sad to be number one on that list.

Perhaps a place to start would be psychiatric help to get you past this aversion to anything touching you that causes your inability to fall asleep would be a place to start.
I feel sad for you but we can't save them all especially when they come up with every excuse in the world to not be able to be saved.

Good luck to you and the wife. I have a feeling that both of you are desperately going to need all the luck that can be mustered up.

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by Pugsy » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:42 am

GrumpyHere wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:32 am
In regards to hyper sensory issues, joe has the goal of a happy wife, he needs to power through it. Or sleep in separate bedrooms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
:lol: :lol: :lol: That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

At least until joe makes a decision as to how to possibly fix his sensory issues and even then given the overall attitude in general I don't know it stands much chance of success but again the mind is a powerful tool. Maybe it could be retrained to be a positive tool instead of a negative tool.

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by joepublic23 » Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:15 pm

I am going to try Ambien this weekend. If that doesn’t work the doctor is referring to someone else to either try the Dental device or Inspire. We shall see.

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Re: Just can't sleep with my mask on!

Post by Janknitz » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:05 pm

At least until joe makes a decision as to how to possibly fix his sensory issues and even then given the overall attitude in general I don't know it stands much chance of success but again the mind is a powerful tool. Maybe it could be retrained to be a positive tool instead of a negative tool.
Hey, I think we should acknowledge that Joe's attitude HAS improved (he hasn't given up yet, that says something). And "fixing sensory issues" doesn't really happen (ask me how I know), but there are ways to adapt. That was my biggest battle with CPAP--I worked very hard to be able to use it. Joe has pointed out that with mild OSA he has other options, at least for now. I'll give him that.

We've seen some progress, he deserves some credit.
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