Installing Oscar on iMac with Big Sur I see no migrating tool cannot read Sleepyhead data

I am having trouble trying to get Oscar to work on my iMac running Big Sur. I had an old mac that died in July 2020. I had Sleepyhead on it. I'm not sure what version (since it is not in my new computer) but it was from 2014. I do see my folders from Sleepyhead in my computer.

I am using an F&P Icon plus autocpap. I tried downloading Oscar 1.2 on my computer in April 2021. I can see that it appears to have created new folders in Oscar for my old profiles and data from my Sleepyhead folders but I have never been able to open them and read any of my old data or put in my F & P Icon usb and read any new data.

I found the Oscar 1.3 mac files and downloaded them. It ask me to use the Oscar Migration Tool. I click it and it does nothing. I do not see a migration tool anywhere. I've tried reading Mac instructions but I see no mention of Migration Tools.

I still have 1.2.O dmg in my machine so maybe that is creating a problem. I've been unable to read my data myself since my old computer crashed. At this point, I'm thinking that getting a new machine might be easier. Haha! I'm kind of serious but it would be great if someone else can shine a little light on this issue. I dislike being reliant on going to my sleep doc's office to see my data.

Sidenote: I had a terrible sleep doctor before I had the fabulous doctor I have now. Many years ago, the fabulous sleep doctor told me my apnea was not bad and she would have suggested a special mouth guard instead of a CPAP but my F & P Icon was quite new at the time. I'm wondering if any of you have mouth guards instead of CPAPs and if you liked them?

I don't understand the exact state of your data now. If you migrated your SleepyHead data when you installed OSCAR 1.2.0, all should be well. No further migration should be required. When you start OSCAR, do you see a list of profiles? Double click on a profile to open it and then click on the Daily tab to see the latest data.

If that doesn't work, but you do see a list of profiles, try creating a new profile and then clicking on Import to import data from your USB stick into OSCAR. You won't have the old data but you should have anything recorded on the card. If you try that and it doesn't work, let me know exactly what happens. Please include some screen shots so I can understand better the behavior.

I am uncertain how well OSCAR supports the Icon Plus CPAP machine as I have not personally tested data from that model. Could you make a zip file of your entire InfoUSB stick and upload it to my Dropbox folder? Please include your forum name in the zip file name so we know who the file is from. I will

Installed Oscar when on Sierra (having had SHead prior), now on Big Sur 11.6 after going to Mojave (tho' not Catalina), but don't remember anything about a migrating tool. FWIW can't stand BS otherwise and going to Monterey soon.

Nashpap wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:55 am

I am having trouble trying to get Oscar to work on my iMac running Big Sur. I had an old mac that died in July 2020. I had Sleepyhead on it. I'm not sure what version (since it is not in my new computer) but it was from 2014. I do see my folders from Sleepyhead in my computer.

Did you ever copy your data from your old Mac (before it crashed) to your iMac? If not then your old data may be lost.

Nashpap wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:55 am

I found the Oscar 1.3 mac files and downloaded them. It ask me to use the Oscar Migration Tool. I click it and it does nothing. I do not see a migration tool anywhere. I've tried reading Mac instructions but I see no mention of Migration Tools.

OSCAR offers to import the data when you you first install OSCAR. But you have to check the data location in that window that offers to import it. If your data location is wrong, or empty, then there is nothing for it to do.
Did you download OSCAR from the official site?

Nashpap wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:55 am

I still have 1.2.O dmg in my machine so maybe that is creating a problem...

No, not at all! That is only the program installation file and has nothing to do with your data.

Was the specific error message you saw was "Using <filename>, found SleepyHead - You must run the OSCAR Migration Tool"?

This message happens with OSCAR attempts to open a SleepyHead database or profile directly. SleepyHead formats some of its data differently than OSCAR and the migration tool exists to copy a SleepyHead database to a new database with changes needed for OSCAR. This can also happen if you copied a SleepyHead database to your new OSCAR_Data directory instead of using the migration option OSCAR offers when creating a new database.

The easiest solution is to create a new OSCAR database and migrate the SleepyHead data again.

Let us know the name of your OSCAR database and Jeff or I will let you know the easiest way to fix your problem.

I’m sorry for disappearing for a month. I am taking care of my elderly mother and it is hard to make time to take care of me.

Question from Bluedragon: Did you ever copy your data from your old Mac (before it crashed) to your iMac? If not then your old data may be lost.

REPLY: I had a copy of my Sleepyhead (2014) on a backup hard drive. The folders from that drive are in my new computer. I can see them but I cannot open anything.

Bluedragon: I don't understand the exact state of your data now…
REPLY: I was never able to migrate my Sleepyhead data.

Question from Bluedragon: OSCAR offers to import the data when you first install OSCAR. But you have to check the data location in that window that offers to import it. If your data location is wrong, or empty, then there is nothing for it to do. Did you download OSCAR from the official site?

REPLY: I downloaded Oscar 1.2 from the official site but could never get it to function, open anything, or migrate my Sleepyhead files. I downloaded 1.3 in Dec 2021 from the official site. It is in my applications folder and I cannot migrate the data.

I see documents inside of my sleepyhead folders but cannot figure out how to migrate it.

(I have Big Sur on my iMac)
This is what happens when open the OSCAR 1.3 program that is in my application folder :
1. “OSCAR” would like to access files in your Documents folder.
I click “OK”

2. I get this message:
“Using /Users/Rachel/Documents/OSCAR_Data/Preferences.xml, found SleepyHead -
You must run the OSCAR Migration Tool” (**Bluedragon asked about this. See below.)
I click “OK”

3. Nothing happens. It doesn’t open anything. It doesn’t ask me to locate the Sleepyhead file. Perhaps those files are empty and this is why? I just checked. My 2 folders FPIcon_12351905 and Journal_23f31206 have data in them plus daily.shg is 1K, MaskProfile.mp is 438 bytes, overview.shg has 1KB, and Profile.xml has 5KB. When I try to open the xml file it says "The file cannot be opened because Line 11. <!DOCTYPE Profile>" If I try to open it another way it says it cannot open because "there is a problem with its contents.No error details available. Location Line 1. Column 9."

4. If I put my USB for my Icon Plus into my computer, it does not show it on my computer to open.


** Bluedragon said” Was the specific error message you saw was "Using <filename>, found SleepyHead - You must run the OSCAR Migration Tool"?

This message happens with OSCAR attempts to open a SleepyHead database or profile directly. SleepyHead formats some of its data differently than OSCAR and the migration tool exists to copy a SleepyHead database to a new database with changes needed for OSCAR. This can also happen if you copied a SleepyHead database to your new OSCAR_Data directory instead of using the migration option OSCAR offers when creating a new database.

REPLY: I see no other option on my screen except for what I’ve listed above.

Bluedragon: The easiest solution is to create a new OSCAR database and migrate the SleepyHead data again.

REPLY: Do you mean I should delete the Oscar 1.3 and download it again from the site and try everything again?

Bluedragon: Let us know the name of your OSCAR database and Jeff or I will let you know the easiest way to fix your problem.

REPLY: I am sorry but not sure what you mean. The application just says OSCAR.

Thank you for your help!

Here is the Wiki for migrating from SH to OSCAR.
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.ph ... yHead_data

If you currently have data in OSCAR_Data then make a backup or copy of it before you move on.

One possible fix:
The Migrate option is done when you first install a new version of OSCAR. It won't appear a second time, at least not easily.
You would need to delete the OSCAR.app, and also remove the hidden preference files that were created on your Mac. These 2 files will be in your user ~/Library To get to your ~/Library folder, open Finder then press Shift + Command + G then type in ~/Library (Note: that is a Tilde before the forward slash, not a dash)
You can safely delete those two preference files using Finder, logout/reboot your computer, then install OSCAR 1.3.0 again and you should get that Migrate option as noted in the wiki.

Second possible fix:
Follow the part of the wiki on how to import SH data (if you missed the migrate option).

Well, I deleted the Oscar and the 2 files in the library. I got pretty far but I'm confused with what it tells me. I'll attach photos. If I cannot figure this out, can I just erase it again and simply read my card rather than use the old data?

I think one of my problems is trying to do this late in the day. I will try it one more time earlier in the day and go back to the wiki files to read about migration.

Nashpap wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:39 am

If I cannot figure this out, can I just erase it again and simply read my card rather than use the old data?

I think one of my problems is trying to do this late in the day. I will try it one more time earlier in the day and go back to the wiki files to read about migration.

Yes, you can certainly do that and I think that is what you are going to have to do. It is certainly the simplest approach. The last screen capture you posted said there was no backup data. Without that, OSCAR cannot update the existing data -- because updating is just purging and importing the data from backup.

On your hard drive, you have a folder named OSCAR_Data and within that a folder named Profiles. In Profiles folder is another folder named Nashpap. That folder is damaged and preventing OSCAR from starting. Just delete that folder. Restart OSCAR and create a new Nashpap profile. Go to File/Preferences and make sure the option to back up the SD card is enabled. Then import the InfoUSB stick. That should do it.