And for me, as well--even through four months of chemo.
99.99% of the "germs" around us are harmless;
and killing too many puts our immunity at risk.
Many harmless microbes are there to build our immunity to the bad ones.
And for me, as well--even through four months of chemo.
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Alcohol wipes are excellent cleaners and sanitizers, so long as they are kept out of contact with rubber based components which can be dried out and caused to harden and crack by alcohol (has a similar effect on rubber as ozone does). Probably not much for rubber components anyhow on a CPAP that would need cleaning other than the hose ends(?)babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am
I personally use alcohol wipes but to each his own. ymmv.
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Yup, Mother's Day was yesterday, return to normal.
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that's it, i'm going to have to memorize ARCT.
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You are digging your hole deeper. Isopropyl alcohol is recommended for cleaning silicone. (It's silicone, not silicon. Silicone is a man-made polymer derived from silicon. The two products have different properties and different applications.)GearChange wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:34 pmMost don't understand that isopropanol or "Rubbing alcohol" in alcohol wipes can damage rubber/silicon based compounds by altering their molecular structure.
I haven't had that problem. I got my equipment in 2018. I have gone through one hose (dog ate it shortly after I got my cpap machine). Since I settled on a mask I've gone through one frame (broke it by accidentally setting something heavy on it). I broke one water chamber again stupidity on my part. I change cushions maybe once or twice a year if they need it or not. Basically because of the ick factor after a cold or something (even with the alcohol wipes I want sick germs gone lol) According to Oscar my leaks are low. As all the parts have long outlasted their "recommended replacement schedule" I don't think alcohol really hurts things enough for it to be an issue. I don't clean anything inside the machine so maybe it would hurt the insides ?? But as for wiping down the cushions or swishing it around the water chamber I really haven't had a problem.Grumpy48 wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:28 pmAlcohol wipes are excellent cleaners and sanitizers, so long as they are kept out of contact with rubber based components which can be dried out and caused to harden and crack by alcohol (has a similar effect on rubber as ozone does). Probably not much for rubber components anyhow on a CPAP that would need cleaning other than the hose ends(?)babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am
I personally use alcohol wipes but to each his own. ymmv.
Good discussion here. Always interesting to hear what others are doing or not doing
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If that was the "point", then why was it obfuscated so much with you telling people what to do, instead of just saying "Resmed will void your warranty if you use an ozone machine and the determine it's caused damage to the inside of the machine" (which it will).GearChange wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 9:27 amTo all the tar-n-feather know-it-all contributors;
You're missing the point. If you use Ozone cleaners, you not only run the risk of denting your own health, you will also definitely damage the foam inside your machine, a material that almost all PAP machine manufacturers use. Ozone helps disintegrate foam molecules which in turn can end up in your lungs.
Some people (who've apparently never seen a chemical compatibility chart) are under the mistaken impression that alcohol is terrible for silicone. quite the contrary, silicone doesn't care.Grumpy48 wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:28 pmAlcohol wipes are excellent cleaners and sanitizers, so long as they are kept out of contact with rubber based components which can be dried out and caused to harden and crack by alcohol (has a similar effect on rubber as ozone does). Probably not much for rubber components anyhow on a CPAP that would need cleaning other than the hose ends(?)babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am
I personally use alcohol wipes but to each his own. ymmv.
No, IPA doesn't affect silicone. Neither does ethyl alcohol.GearChange wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:34 pmGood point.
Most don't understand that isopropanol or "Rubbing alcohol" in alcohol wipes can damage rubber/silicon based compounds by altering their molecular structure.
if one holds it long enough, it becomes central apnea.
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Yup, silicone elastomers do not react to many chemicals that natural rubber does. Good to see you comprehend that distinction.palerider wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 3:09 pmSome people (who've apparently never seen a chemical compatibility chart) are under the mistaken impression that alcohol is terrible for silicone. quite the contrary, silicone doesn't care.Grumpy48 wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:28 pmAlcohol wipes are excellent cleaners and sanitizers, so long as they are kept out of contact with rubber based components which can be dried out and caused to harden and crack by alcohol (has a similar effect on rubber as ozone does). Probably not much for rubber components anyhow on a CPAP that would need cleaning other than the hose ends(?)babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am
I personally use alcohol wipes but to each his own. ymmv.
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I'm one of the people that's been posting links to material compatibility charts in response to people saying "I was told not to use alcohol" Plus I wiped my first cushion with alcohol every night for five years (yes, my first cushion lasted five years, probably because I didn't clean it vigorously every day. And I note that I used alcohol because it effective at removing facial oils, not to 'sanitize' the cushion.Grumpy48 wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 3:35 pmYup, silicone elastomers do not react to many chemicals that natural rubber does. Good to see you comprehend that distinction.palerider wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 3:09 pmSome people (who've apparently never seen a chemical compatibility chart) are under the mistaken impression that alcohol is terrible for silicone. quite the contrary, silicone doesn't care.Grumpy48 wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:28 pmAlcohol wipes are excellent cleaners and sanitizers, so long as they are kept out of contact with rubber based components which can be dried out and caused to harden and crack by alcohol (has a similar effect on rubber as ozone does). Probably not much for rubber components anyhow on a CPAP that would need cleaning other than the hose ends(?)babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am
I personally use alcohol wipes but to each his own. ymmv.
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