Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

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Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:18 pm

Hi All,

It's my birthday and I'll breathe cause I want to....long story short, I'm sick and tired of feeling bad, nights of unbroken sleep, and just being darned tired.

It's been a summer of testing (at home sleep study, in clinic titration), diagnosis (mixed apnea) and treatment (bi-level 10/5 cm H20).

Thank you to everyone for all the great information what is within my rights. My first call from the DME was I would be getting "top of the line bi-level Philips machine."

It should have been my first clue--telling me instead of asking what I want/need. I pushed back and stated I wanted the AirCurve 10 Vauto.

When I get to my fitting/setup appointment, I see that it's an Aircurve 10 S--and I insisted that is NOT what I asked for or want.

The RT was a jerk and said "Well, that's the script your doctor wrote." I pushed back and said "No, it's not." (I had my script in hand).

He then had the audacity to follow with "Well, this is what I have, now."

I asked "Well, when will you get what I asked for?"

Grumble, grumble, grumble, RT gets up, checks prescription and then comes back and tells me there is another delay since the machine has to be special ordered and transferred from their location across town. I mention that I live between the two stores and will be more than happy to pick it up myself. He responds that the store is closed.

Why tell me all of this and truthfully, not my problem.

Thursday, I did receive my Vauto. Goodness, you'd think I was being a drama queen for all the "trouble" I caused--this is a special order machine and the mask is a special order--you are the only one that uses this. For the love of Mike, I don't care. He proceeds to tell me the prescription is set and can't be changed (ha), I can only see 1 day of data (ha-ha), and if I want to get additional data, I'll have to contact them (uh no). I will have to work with them for a heated hose--as I live in Colorado and sleep with the thermostat set to 55 degrees in the winter. Can my doc prescribe and then I bypass that office altogether? I have Rotech as my DME provider and am willing to set up for online ordering--after I get my doc to write the prescription.

At any rate, initially, I left the settings as prescribed for the first night. I felt better the next day, but still yawning and sleepy. Last night, I changed the settings to auto.

The result was better and frankly, I feel better. It was a shot in the dark guess based on my prescription (10/5). At this point, I'm at a stop on the next steps (if any).

Feedback would be greatly appreciated! And thank you for listening to me gripe. I am soooo happy this is my second night of unbroken sleep in a very, very long time.

This is my first post; please let me know if the image setup/format/anything is done incorrectly so I can fix the issue.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Pugsy » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:27 pm

I can't read the statistics to see the numbers. I can't enlarge your image either.

Try this way for posting images from imgur.com
log in to your account
click on the image you wish to share
a little box with some addresses will pop up on the right side...click on large thumbnail first and then copy the very bottom/last line in that box of addresses ....and then paste it in the body of your post here.
Hopefully then we can enlarge it to see the numbers.
I can't tell what your settings are.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:39 pm

Elphaba wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:18 pm
.long story short,
Well, first, you did excellent on arranging your screenshots for a first post. (pity more people don't read the 'read this first' before posting).
The only issue was that you only showed a 4 minute bit of your 'good' night, and the pressures showing in the settings don't match the pressures showing in the statistics. (shows 5-11 in settings and 5-21+ in stats).

Your first settings from the DME were atrocious, obviously. Looks like the bozo tried to put a cpap pressure setting (5-10) on a bilevel, without understanding that they are different.

Can you give us a full shot of the second night, and what your settings actually are now?

Also, pick the last option on imgur, if you would, for "linked bbcode". that way someone can click on the pic, and get the full sized image, instead of having to edit the url and remove the last lower case L before the .png.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:47 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Let's try this again

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:55 pm

Good links, but you're still zoomed in on a 4 minute segment of the second night.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:03 pm

Errrrrrrr...

I changed the image....should work now...

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:07 pm

I'd bump minepap up to 6.. maybe 7, hard to tell on the scale... I'd say 6 for tonight, see how things do.

Everything else looks pretty good so far.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:29 pm

Thank you--I'll try min at 6 and see how the night goes.

I appreciate you!
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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Pugsy » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:44 pm

See how you do tonight with minimum EPAP of 6 and tomorrow when you post your report can you include a quick summary on sleep quality in terms of remembered awakenings however brief they might be.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by zonker » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:30 pm

hey, elphaba!

can't add more to help as you already have good people helping.

but, i did want to say that i LOVE your attitude. with thinking like that, getting your settings dialed in should be a snap!!
people say i'm self absorbed.
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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:02 am

Good morning!

For some reason, I didn't get the detail information from Saturday night--only the summary only.

Detail from last night is below.

I recall waking up three/four times last night from the air blowing over the bridge of my nose and being aware of rolling over and adjusting the hose.

Still, I am feeling so much better after just a few days--I'm amazed of the impact already! Headed out the the office--won't be back on until this evening.

Thank you in advance and I so much appreciate the help here!

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 am

"Nights of unbroken sleep" . . .
I have one or two of these on occasion.
Cpap is how I get back to sleep easily.
Consecutive full nights of unbroken sleep is common only in small children.
Think, "sleeping like a baby".
I never expected that.
I still got more than I hoped for.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by palerider » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:55 pm

Yup, go to 7 on minepap, and raise your maxipap, id'd just put it on 25 and ignore it.

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Re: Please Help....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of Unbroken Sleep

Post by Elphaba » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:17 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 am
"Nights of unbroken sleep" . . .
I have one or two of these on occasion.
Cpap is how I get back to sleep easily.
Consecutive full nights of unbroken sleep is common only in small children.
Think, "sleeping like a baby".
I never expected that.
I still got more than I hoped for.
Exactly! I’ve heard so many times how hard of a transition cpap would be...everyone kept telling me to keep at it, don’t get discouraged.

Yes, it’s been a transition getting used to this “thing” on my face.
Yes, I still have arousals and wake ups.
Yes, I’m still figuring out my routine.
Yea, still dialing in.

But...

No, I did not realize how bad I felt.
I thought forgetfulness, brain fog, lost words was a result of passing the half century mark.
I thought 50 is the new 30 was an insane concept.

I am so happy this is a solution that does not involve surgery or medication.
While I expect that I will have off nights—I am so grateful to find a solution and wonderfully supportive community here.

Thank you all; I could not have made it to this point so quickly without this board.

Tonight, min to 7 and max to (scary) 25.

Although I’d be okay with 50 being the new 25.....
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Dialing In....The Beginning of the Journey of Nights of No More Getting Up to Pee

Post by Elphaba » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:00 am

Good morning!

I did not like the beginning of the night--trying to read with the pressure so high! I'm not sure how to fix that issue.

Looks like once if went to sleep it was better.

Woke up a couple of times, mask and hose adjustment. Overall this morning, feel pretty darned good.

Happy to not get out of bed to potty. Yay me!

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