Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

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Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:31 am

Starting a thread for user reviews of this new mask
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... r-her.html
Trying to keep comments in one thread for easy reading and discussion.

I just got mine. Haven't had time to play with it yet though.
I can see some potential pros and cons with it already but none appear to be huge deal breakers at this point (at least for me).

Initially...it reminds me of a better fitting and more comfortable Pilairo.
More later when I get a chance to hook it up to the machine and give it a whirl.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:16 pm

Going to talk about the vent/exhaust holes...if the Swift FX venting is annoying for whatever reason.....give this mask a try.
The new way of venting pretty much almost reduces the air flow being venting to nothing.
Hard to describe but at my 10 cm pressure....I could barely, barely feel the air being vented.
Let's say a 90 to 95% reduction in flow when compared to the Swift FX venting.

No swivel on the hose at the mask level but I don't see it being a problem if someone wanted the swivel to redirect the venting because venting is going to be a non issue with this mask.

Otherwise..people are just going to have to try it to see if they are okay with the other features that are different.
The headgear is different...those of you with small heads...don't worry about it being too large and loose.
Those of you with large heads...don't know what to tell you as there is some adjustability there and whether it is going to be enough is going to depend on your head and desired tension wanted.
Stretching out over long term use...that of course will need to be determined as these masks are used long term.
I do think that how much stretching happens is also going to depend on how much stretching happens because of size of head.
Like I have a small head and I bet that long term there won't be much stretching (if any) but if I had a much larger head maybe there would be more stretching (as in with removal and pulling it off).

It reminds me of a much lighter and improved Pilairo that is totally silent when compared to Pilairo venting (I found very loud).

The AirFit P10 is going to be like any other mask out there...some will love it and some will hate it and the only way to figure out for sure which way you are going to go with it is to give it a try.
I like it...and I maybe like it better than the Swift FX because of the lighter headgear. Remember....one of my main things is "less on my face and head" and that's why I use the Tap Pap without any headgear.

If you have a problem with the Swift FX venting..and love the Swift FX mask otherwise...for sure give the AirFit P10 a try because the vent (or really lack of air flow) flow is probably the biggest change in a mask that I have ever seen.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by levman » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:52 pm

I just got mine ... spent a few minutes messing around with it and I'm impressed! I've always liked the Swift FX, except for the air venting which my wife describes as a fire hose of air. I just switched to the Pilairo Q in December in the interest of a happier wife, and the venting is the only thing I like about the Pilairo. The AirFit feels like a smaller, lighter Swift FX with much better controlled air venting! Looking forward to giving it the real test tonight.

Anyone want to buy a very slightly used Pilairo Q, complete with an extra, never used Nasal Pillow (silly me, I bought a spare)?

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by ~jimnsc » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:29 pm

Just got mine on the front porch and have played around with it a bit. Looks like I will be able to sleep on my right side as well as my left due to the negligible exhaust pressure - going to be able to point it right at the missus with no complaints (I hope). Don't have an extremely large head but it is oval shaped so I don't have any idea what to predict with it remaining in place. I plan one strap on top and the other around the back. The ultra-light weight, coupled with the minimal exhaust pressure and little bit of "on your face" makes it desirable for me. Now, if it just sleeps good and lasts it will be an appliance to cherish (I predict). More tomorrow after a night's sleep - good luck to you other new owners.
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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Loreena » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:31 am

Yep, it's a winner! I love this mask, in every way.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by levman » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:06 am

Excellent first night, comfortable, quiet, no leaks, slept way better than I did with the Pilairo Q or even the Swift FX! Headgear works well - I don't know how it is that moving the two straps away from each other loosens the fit, but it works.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Hawthorne » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:42 am

I'm glad to read these comments. I have ordered this mask from a Canadian online supplier but it is backordered. It sounds like one of the best masks yet. Of course, masks being so individual, it remains to be seen if it is a good mask for me. I have been using the Headrest (adapted) for several years now. I have tried several others over that time and some are very good but I have always gone back to the Headrest. While the headrest works very well for me with my adaptations, I would like a nasal pillows mask that is as effective - for me - but less mask.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:00 pm

Quick report.

The mask venting (or lack of) is a home run.
Not only is the P10 diffusing the air so it really is only barely, barely sensed...it is also pretty much silent. ResMed hit that out of the ball park...great design.

I had some minor issues with the presence of the headgear...it's a bit "tight" and caused a bit of discomfort despite having the straps spread out for maximum looseness.
Remember....I normally use the Tap Pap mask and no headgear so it isn't a big surprise to me that the presence of any headgear is going to be noticeable to me.
The headgear fit and "issues" did wake me up last night and if I had had the Tap Pap close by I would have swapped it out...I was that annoyed....but I had put the Tap Pap in for cleaning so it wasn't handy and I was too lazy to get up and get it.
Eventually went back to sleep with the P10 after quite a bit of fiddling.

People are just going to have to try this mask themselves to see if the one size fits all headgear is going to be much of an issue.
It reminds me of the original Pilairo (before the adjustable headgear) and while it may "fit" everyone....it may not "fit" everyone totally comfortably.

The nasal pillows seem a little firmer than the Swift FX pillows but that could be my imagination at work.
Leak last night was pretty much limited to a very brief time where it looks like I probably opened my mouth a little.
The lack of the swivel thing at the short hose to mask junction...not an issue for me. Everything is flexible enough as it is. It's so light and flexible that I didn't really miss the swivel.

I think the biggest potential "con" to this mask is going to be the one size fits all headgear thing and the only way to know if that is going to be a problem is to try it. Not everyone is going to have a problem in that regards.

If someone is unhappy with the Swift FX venting....for whatever reason...do give the P10 a try. Having venting issues be totally erased might be so much of an advantage or pro that any little cons may not matter.
No mask is ever totally perfect for everyone and this one is no different. We just have to weigh the pros and cons with any mask out there and make compromises.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by ~jimnsc » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:31 pm

Another quick review after one night's use.... I still cannot believe the comfort of this appliance. I separated the strap so one went on top and the other behind my head and be dog if both did not stay in place all night. The wife says I slept facing her, away, and on my back for short periods and she never felt the first bit of air. The pillows were superb and I especially like the way they compress when weight is added to one side or the other. I am sure this kept the mask in place. Folks, it was centered this morning exactly where it started when I put it on. My head is oval shaped and is 7 1/8 and that is one reason I couldn't believe the back strap behaved as it did. Had you seen my hair in the unusual shape it was in this morning you'd understand how often I turned with no upsets to the mask. It came with medium pillows mounted and I knew I would need the large and it was a snap to change - much easier and quicker to change than others I have used. This is a KEEPER!!! I got free return insurance I don't expect to use. About the only way it will be returned will be at a handsome profit.

My only concern is "how long will the tiny straps last without stretching beyond being useful?" If it is updated, please don't add a buckle right where your head would bear upon it while on your back like my Aloha. Instead, offer different sizes because this one will be around a long time. The current will be fine for me and my head. Remember, it may not work for everybody but it sure did for me. Resmed brought us an excellent product from down under. By the way, leaks were no problem!
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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by levman » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:49 pm

Pugsy wrote: The nasal pillows seem a little firmer than the Swift FX pillows but that could be my imagination at work.
The pillows seem firmer to me as well ... Still, it didn't take me long to get used to that, especially once I loosened the straps a bit. I woke up once in the middle of the night, and it almost felt like I wasn't wearing a mask (almost)...

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by mldenison » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:59 pm

I just got mine today and can't wait to try it tonight.

It's incredibly light and comfortable. The headgear seems fine.

My only concern, with others, is that the headgear straps stretch.

I believe it's a keeper.

I'm using the medium pillow. If anyone is using the large or small pillow, I'd be happy to swap with you.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by SleepyCPAP » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:12 pm

Pugsy and all early adopters,

I'm curious about two things:
1. Can the hose be run overhead? (TAP PAP does that, and I used to swivel and run the Swift FX hose over my head).
2. What does breath moisture do to the vents in cold weather?

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:27 pm

SleepyCPAP wrote:1. Can the hose be run overhead? (TAP PAP does that, and I used to swivel and run the Swift FX hose over my head).
I don't route my masks upwards (like with a hose buddy) but I do run the hose up around the bed pillow and down to my face..so they all get routed upwards and around the bed pillow.
I was able to do the same thing last night with the P10 even without the swivel..the hose is so lightweight and flexible that it is really easy to make it go where you want it to without undue stress.

Don't know what to tell you about condensation in the vent holes. I didn't have any last night.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by RogerSC » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:56 pm

Yep, just tried it for a couple of nights...when I woke up this morning it was making some odd noises that I couldn't get under control or sleep when they were going on, so I'm back to the Swift FX for the time being.

Despite the problems that I had, this is a great mask, the venting is done the way that it should be done. The airflow noise is about as close to silent as possible, and the airflow itself is hardly perceptable a couple of inches away from the mask. It is very lightweight, and the headgear actually is adjustable by moving the half-straps further apart or closer together. It should be a winner, but I'm not sure what went on this morning with it.

I'll probably try it again some time. I am now waiting for the Swift FXQ or the Swift FX 2 from ResMed that will have the venting from the AirFit *smile*. That would be great.

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Re: Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

Post by RogerSC » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:01 pm

SleepyCPAP wrote: Can the hose be run overhead? (TAP PAP does that, and I used to swivel and run the Swift FX hose over my head).
The mask tubing cannot be run overhead as the tap pap or swift lt (or swift fx with a clip on top) can, you're not going to be able to attach the tubing to the mask in this case. It's too lightweight for that. But you can use a hose hanger, of course, which is what I did when I tried it out. Worked great, no problem.