Help! Help! A Flood!

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sleepinow
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Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Fri May 17, 2013 8:40 pm

I always wake up to the noise of water gargling inside my long tubing and the mask tube. I was wondering what I can buy to prevent this from occuring. I did not find anything of good use from cpap.com. I know there is pad a cheek. Is there somthing better?

Also last night I had three snoring events and a bunch of hypopneas. I tend to have my mouth opened for some reason. Can keeping the mouth shut actually lower the hypopnea events from occuring?

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Fri May 17, 2013 8:46 pm

Opps what I meant is the snuggle hose and not the pad a cheek

Does it work well? I do not want to take a risk at buying something where it works for half of the people who bought it

And if it does not work well. Is there an alternative

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by quietmorning » Fri May 17, 2013 8:59 pm

I called Phillips Resperonics to help with this with the heated tube, as at the time, my room was a whole 40 degrees, and I was drowning. The guy I spoke to told me to turn my heated tube up to five - as far as it would go, then set the humidifier to two. That worked very well for me. I still had to cover my nasal pillow as my breath really loaded it up with condensation. I made myself a rather uncomfortable mask cover to use during the winter (the back of the pillow had to be completely covered, or I'd drown). This coming year, hopefully Karen at Pad A Cheek can help with a small design change to take care of this issue.

If you run air conditioning, keep the room no colder than 68, if your corner of the world is going into summer. If you are entering into Winter, try your best to keep your room warm. I don't know if Karen's hose covers from Pad A Cheek can be worn on a heated tube. I do know that the PR S1 tube does not get noticeably WARM. . . so maybe her hoze cozies will work.

Edit: Also, pay attention to the humidity in the room. If it goes above 70%, turn your humidifier down to one, if 80 or above, turn it to passover or turn it off altogether. If the humidity is below 70% but not lower than 49% - 2 works well. . .anything below 49 gets full throttle at 3. I turned my heated hose down last night because the room was too warm and the air blowing in the cpap was too warm to be comfortable - so be very aware of the 'weather' in your room, and adjust accordingly.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Fri May 17, 2013 9:18 pm

I thought pad a cheek is padding for your cheek. Or is that just the company name



I do not have a heated hose. I have the regular hose because my ASV is the 50 series while only the 60 series supports it. Is there a third party hose heater that actually works?


Edit: Well after googling it, I found that it is the company name. So is pad a cheek better or the snugglehose on cpap better? When I ask better, I am talking about condensation reduction.

If there is a better alternative, please show me

And if someone can answer my question at the first post, second part, that would be great

Thanks, you guys have helped me a whole lot.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by quietmorning » Fri May 17, 2013 9:30 pm

Ah, I misunderstood - my apologies. For tonight - try to keep your room (brain damaged spell check) as warm as comfortably possible. If you can put your tube under the covers, that will help short term - not a cure. Pad a cheek also sells very well made THICK hose covers.

What is the weather like where you sleep?
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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Fri May 17, 2013 9:35 pm

The weather is around 74 with a humidity of 50% I have a thermostat and a humidification sensor. I tend to sleep better with a higher humidity level. So what I use is four. Last night I used three and scored many hypopneas

Edit: It is bedtime for me. I will looks at the response tomorrow. Oh and I forgot to mention that keeping it under a cover is hard since my tubing is elavated using a hose holder. It slides under the matress and lifts the hose above me so leaks are not present

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Sat May 18, 2013 7:39 am

Bump

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by quietmorning » Sat May 18, 2013 7:47 am

Ok, here we go. . . Karen's hoses at Pad A Cheek:http://padacheek.com/PAC_Hosecover.html
Short hose covers are the same link, just scroll down. You use the same mask I do, you will probably need an 18 inch short hose cover so that it will go under the hose cover and not sneak up the short hose.
Barrel Cozies: http://padacheek.com/PACSwiftII_Barrel_cozy.html with the temp in your room, you shouldn't need a back covering.

If you need a longer hose cover or the 18inch short hose cover - if you will email her, she will work with you on what you need. She's wonderful.

This worked very well for me (except when my bedroom got into the 40's) when I did not have a heated hose. They are worth every penny in cost - very well made.

Hope this helps. If this SHOULD work, but if it doesn't for some odd strange bizarre reason (and odd strange bizarre reasons DO happen!) - you might consider purchasing a stand alone heated hose. h[url]ttp://www.cpap.com/productpage/hybernite-rain ... -hose.html[/url] or get the upgrade for your system with the heated hose. Your hose will still have to be covered with the PRS1 heated hose, but the snuggle hose will be more than enough. Even if you get the heated hose, make sure the short hose and the nasal pillow are covered.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by Pugsy » Sat May 18, 2013 7:51 am

The Padacheck long hose cozy is superior to the snuggle hose in terms of fleece density an insulation ability.
IMHO it's worth the price difference.

There is a stand alone heated hose that will work with your machine. I finally bought one in Nov 2011 after battling rain out for the 2 previous winters.
The Hybernite 2300...see my thread here where I talked about it. Cpap.com has one but requires RX which I don't understand but you can also find it on EBay (where I found mine).
viewtopic/t71442/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=71 ... te#p656179 scroll up to the top if the link takes you below top.
Then you won't need a hose cozy, actually they specifically say don't use one with it because it will get too warm and they are correct because of course if someone tells me not to use a cozy then I have to try it

There is the Aussie heated hose...more $ and that's why I put off getting the heated hose until I discovered the Hybernite 2300. Both the Aussie hose and the Hybernite are strictly on/off heating controls as there is no rheostat.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat May 18, 2013 8:30 am

If you decide to go the cheap route and get the snugglehose, bear in mind there have been complaints.
You need to follow installation directions explicitly, as there is no zipper,
and the fabric will cling to the hose, shed, pill, and make you curse.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat May 18, 2013 9:05 am

sleepinow wrote:
Also last night I had three snoring events and a bunch of hypopneas. I tend to have my mouth opened for some reason. Can keeping the mouth shut actually lower the hypopnea events from occuring?
If your mouth is open with a nasal /nasal pillow mask then you are losing therapy through your open mouth. In other words, instead of the pressure keeping your airways open, it is flying out your mouth. Loose lips sink ships!

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Sat May 18, 2013 3:08 pm

Thanks for your post Pugsy. Which do you recommend for best performance? The hose cozy or the the hybernite 2300? I do not mind the cost at this point

@ Blackspinner
Is there any way to keep my mouth shut? Like a type of head piece that closes my mouth? Or maybe a different mask? I prefer to keep my Swift FX. But if I need to make a change in masks then I will do so promptly

If anyone else can answer any of the above questions, I would appreciate it

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Sat May 18, 2013 8:40 pm

Bump

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Min EPAP: 13.0 CmH20
Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
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Humidification Mode:off
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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by Pugsy » Sun May 19, 2013 9:50 am

sleepinow wrote:Which do you recommend for best performance? The hose cozy or the the hybernite 2300?
The Hybernite 2300...mainly because it's nice to not have the added weight of the hose cozy pulling on the mask. It isn't hugely heavy but there is weight and bulk there pulling on the mask. Plus during the winter months even the Padacheek hose cozy didn't prevent ice cube nose (I keep a really cold bedroom in the winter).

You can try a chin strap to try to help you to keep your mouth closed.
Or a full face mask but before I would go down that road I would evaluate the leak line to make sure that the mouth breathing was creating a real problem or not. Not all mouth breathing equals total loss of therapy pressure anyway.
It depends on how much and for how long. I do a little mouth breathing even now but it is rare, short lived and rarely ventures into large leak territory. Going to extraordinary measures to try to keep my mouth shut tight would create more sleep disruptions than 15 minutes of maybe mouth breathing leaks would cause problems.

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Re: Help! Help! A Flood!

Post by sleepinow » Sun May 19, 2013 10:19 am

Thanks but I forgot to ask... Is the Hybernite 2300 a universal product? Will it fit my machine? My Apap 60 series regular tube did not fit my 50 series ASV device

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Min EPAP: 13.0 CmH20
Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
Humidification Mode:off
Humidifier Setting:c5