Hi all,
I haven't been around here for years, since everything was going beautifully and I was sleeping like a baby. And then my S9 started to act buggy, so I picked up a S10 for Her as a replacement. I programmed it to match my S9 exactly, and I have all the same accessories (climateline hose, in particular). Then, I put on the exact same Mirage Liberty mask that I had worn with no problems the night before, and went to sleep.
Worst night ever.
First, I had a super-rough time getting a seal on my mask (the mask that sealed perfectly with my S9). I had farting noises on and off all night. I also had rainout at the same low humidity setting (69) that I always use and never get rainout. The apap pressure changes were super fast and distracting, so halfway through the night I turned off the "for her" setting and went with the regular autoset algorithm, thinking that would be better. Nope. And then woke up and looked at the data -- my mask was leaking all night.
So what happened? Has anyone had a tried-and-true mask not work with a new machine? Any suggestions on what to tweak to get back to my blissful sleep? I'm going to go grab my old busted S9 and take a nap.
New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
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New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
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Re: New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
Curious case. I don't know the answer, but I am thinking about hose management. Did you place the new machine in a different position than the old machine? Does your hose attach to the new machine in the same position, vis-à-vis your face, as the old machine? Does the hose run to the mask in the same position?the_nap_ster wrote:tried-and-true mask not work with a new machine
You want to position and manage the hose so that it is not pulling on the mask. If the hose pulls on the mask, it can cause unintentional leak.
Maybe address the problem to a diet and nutrition forum?the_nap_ster wrote:I had farting noises on and off all night.
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Re: New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
Obviously there are some differences in how these machines function. I would not change masks or hoses, etc. Make an appointment with your DME provider and go over you issues and hopefully they will be able to help you set up your new machine to where you are not having these new difficulties. That's taking into account the you DME provider is well trained on the old and new equipment that you were/are using. ( Unfortunately, I finding that most DME providers only know how to use two or three different types of equipment.) Anyway, if you are not able to get your DME provider to help you with your new issues, it sound like you are going to have to start from the beginning and adjust your new machine a little here and a little there every night until you figure it out and get it right for you.
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Re: New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
I also have an A10 for Her. I have no idea why your mask would leak more than with the $9,. A few settings to check to make sure they match your equipment: mask type (nasal, nasal pillows, etc.) and hose type (Slimline was the default on mine but I transferred a standard size hose). I don't use a heated hose, so I am no help there.
As to rainout, I found that the A10 is VERY sensitive to water levels in the humidifier tub. I overfilled by a smidgen over the maximum line one night and got rainout. Lesson learned. I underfill now. My prior PR System One humidifier was frequently overfilled, with no resulting rainout.
I use an APAP range. I found that, at least initially, my pressures used were lower than on my PR System One. I set it with the same pressure range (10-20). You might want to widen your pressure range a bit in case the A10 thinks you need lower or higher pressure than your previous S9's range.
How old is your mask? My Airfit P10 nasal pillows mask was 1.5 years old and the A10 registered large leaks until I replaced the headgear with a P10 for her version. I thought the old P10 was a great fit, but evidently the A10 did not.
I too switched from the Auto for her to regular Auto after the first night, among many other changes made after finding out how to get into the clinical menu, after a miserable first night. I don't know if it made a difference.
These are just a few ideas. I can tell you, that once i changed the settings (which my DME had set, some over my objections), my sleep with the A10 has generally been GREAT and I am very happy with the A10.
I did learn that a change of machine can make a huge difference (negative at first, then positive) until things are tweaked. I hope you figure out what will make your therapy with the A10 work lots better for you. Let us know. There are many A10 users here now and there will be many more new A10 users as time goes on, as the A10 is the latest Resmed machine. Don't expect the DME to be an expert on the A10 for Her. Mine had no clue what made it different from the regular A10 and thought it was merely an appearance difference.
As to rainout, I found that the A10 is VERY sensitive to water levels in the humidifier tub. I overfilled by a smidgen over the maximum line one night and got rainout. Lesson learned. I underfill now. My prior PR System One humidifier was frequently overfilled, with no resulting rainout.
I use an APAP range. I found that, at least initially, my pressures used were lower than on my PR System One. I set it with the same pressure range (10-20). You might want to widen your pressure range a bit in case the A10 thinks you need lower or higher pressure than your previous S9's range.
How old is your mask? My Airfit P10 nasal pillows mask was 1.5 years old and the A10 registered large leaks until I replaced the headgear with a P10 for her version. I thought the old P10 was a great fit, but evidently the A10 did not.
I too switched from the Auto for her to regular Auto after the first night, among many other changes made after finding out how to get into the clinical menu, after a miserable first night. I don't know if it made a difference.
These are just a few ideas. I can tell you, that once i changed the settings (which my DME had set, some over my objections), my sleep with the A10 has generally been GREAT and I am very happy with the A10.
I did learn that a change of machine can make a huge difference (negative at first, then positive) until things are tweaked. I hope you figure out what will make your therapy with the A10 work lots better for you. Let us know. There are many A10 users here now and there will be many more new A10 users as time goes on, as the A10 is the latest Resmed machine. Don't expect the DME to be an expert on the A10 for Her. Mine had no clue what made it different from the regular A10 and thought it was merely an appearance difference.
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Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: Have also used Opus 360, Swift LT for Her, Optilife, and Breeze Nasal Pillows masks. |
Started CPAP 12/18/09 Pressure 13. Changed to APAP 1/18/10, Pressure 10-16. 4/2014:Switched to AirFit P10 mask. PR System One REMstar Auto Series 550 with A-Flex for 5.5 years. 7/2015 to present: AirSense 10 AutoSet FOR HER. Range: 10-20
Re: New machine (Airsense 10 for Her) -- HELP?
I have the ResMed AirSense 10 for her model. When I first got it I ran 1 month in the for her mode and then 1 month in regular mode. I found no measurable difference between modes. The first thing I would do is to go back into the Clinical Menu and double check that all your settings are correct for mask type, hose type, temperture & humidity, pressure range. Then change out your mask cushion/pillow. Check your data on SleepyHead and make sure there are no anomalies. If that doesn't help see your sleep doctor or DME.
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Mask: Evora Full Face Mask |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: ClimateLine Heated hose, Sleepyhead software |
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