Does anyone know anything about developing what seems to be nasal allergy symptoms from prolonged use of a nasal pillow interface? I'm talking about a frequently runny nose that lasts during the daytime and redness around the nares, although not painful. Is it an established problem that could come from irritation from the nightly "injection" of air that could be perhaps irritating the sinuses?
On the other hand, if no one knows of any related established connection between nasal pillows and the above symptoms, does anyone suffer from this and is chalking it off to the development of allergies that you've never had before the inception of treatment via this type of mask?
Allergy Symptoms
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Allergy Symptoms
L o R i
Lori, Funny you should bring up the subject and glad you did.
I have a runny nose most days and can't explain it. Yesterday, I thought I was developing a cold, but today I am fine. Sometimes my nose just drips clear water. Very, very annoying at work, and it lasts most of the day. I do suffer from allergies, but have never had them in the winter, so I am chalking it up to something either to do with my CPap or my deviated septum (but don't really know what that would have to do with it).
My nose isn't red, but sometimes the eyes water in the morning so bad it is hard to keep the eye makeup on. Also, sometimes I wake up at night and have to remove the interface and blow my nose, plus I also have to blow it several times after just starting up each night. I do rinse and clean my Aura daily just to be sure it is not collecting allergens because of this ongoing problem.
Maggie
I have a runny nose most days and can't explain it. Yesterday, I thought I was developing a cold, but today I am fine. Sometimes my nose just drips clear water. Very, very annoying at work, and it lasts most of the day. I do suffer from allergies, but have never had them in the winter, so I am chalking it up to something either to do with my CPap or my deviated septum (but don't really know what that would have to do with it).
My nose isn't red, but sometimes the eyes water in the morning so bad it is hard to keep the eye makeup on. Also, sometimes I wake up at night and have to remove the interface and blow my nose, plus I also have to blow it several times after just starting up each night. I do rinse and clean my Aura daily just to be sure it is not collecting allergens because of this ongoing problem.
Maggie
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Lori & Snoozie,
Oh, how I can relate. Here's my take on all this. Started CPAP Jun 05, I had a very hard time getting used to CPAP. In late June, I went to ER because the left side of my face & eyes were reddish-purple, warm to the touch and my eyes were severely swollen, and my body broke out in hives. Given meds, took oatmeal baths, ect. and I was fine for awhile. Then these episodes would repeat over & over. Doctor diagnosed Angioedema (face swelling & hives), NO LIFE THREATING THROAT SWELLING IN MY CASE, but uncomfortable and embarassing. This went on until Nov 05, doctor took appropriate blood tests to rule out any serious diseases. Dr wanted me to see an Allergist (told him in 70 per cent of cases of Angioedema, the cause was never found). After two surgeries in early 05, sleep tests, diagnoses of Sleep Apnea, ect, I was tired of seeing Doctors and needed a break. While reading posts on this site, I came to the conclusion that CPAP treatment in itself, maybe the culprit. I started taping my mouth shut and covering my eyes with an eye mask!!!! Since, early Nov 05, I suffer from Angioedema no longer!!! I do have times, where I wake up sneezing and have a terrible runny nose (clear, watery, no infection). I may go for a couple days like this, constantly blowing my nose, nose getting redder and redder, but I feel fine. I think it may be a side effect of using CPAP (my opinion) and I accept that I will have these episodes the rest of my life. On the bright side, I exercise regularly, SLEEP LIKE A BABY, and am feeling GREAT!!!!! Hope this helps.
Carolyn
Oh, how I can relate. Here's my take on all this. Started CPAP Jun 05, I had a very hard time getting used to CPAP. In late June, I went to ER because the left side of my face & eyes were reddish-purple, warm to the touch and my eyes were severely swollen, and my body broke out in hives. Given meds, took oatmeal baths, ect. and I was fine for awhile. Then these episodes would repeat over & over. Doctor diagnosed Angioedema (face swelling & hives), NO LIFE THREATING THROAT SWELLING IN MY CASE, but uncomfortable and embarassing. This went on until Nov 05, doctor took appropriate blood tests to rule out any serious diseases. Dr wanted me to see an Allergist (told him in 70 per cent of cases of Angioedema, the cause was never found). After two surgeries in early 05, sleep tests, diagnoses of Sleep Apnea, ect, I was tired of seeing Doctors and needed a break. While reading posts on this site, I came to the conclusion that CPAP treatment in itself, maybe the culprit. I started taping my mouth shut and covering my eyes with an eye mask!!!! Since, early Nov 05, I suffer from Angioedema no longer!!! I do have times, where I wake up sneezing and have a terrible runny nose (clear, watery, no infection). I may go for a couple days like this, constantly blowing my nose, nose getting redder and redder, but I feel fine. I think it may be a side effect of using CPAP (my opinion) and I accept that I will have these episodes the rest of my life. On the bright side, I exercise regularly, SLEEP LIKE A BABY, and am feeling GREAT!!!!! Hope this helps.
Carolyn
Re: Allergy Symptoms
Please see my post, timestamped 9:06 this morning, in the "Nasal Pillows--Help!" thread.Sleepless on LI wrote:Does anyone know anything about developing what seems to be nasal allergy symptoms from prolonged use of a nasal pillow interface?
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Well, seems I am not unique to this; however, it is really bothering me. If it didn't make me look like Rudolph all day and night, I may not mind as much. But the constant dabbing at my nose all day, especially in the AM, has irritated the bottom of my nose so much that it keeps the look of just getting over a bad cold. I feel when you look at me, that's the first thing your eyes are drawn to, is my red nostrils. Lovely, no?
I love the Aura/Headrest and cannot use anything else because they just don't work. No matter what I try, they don't work. I just tried a Somnoplus and it didn't work for me, either. Activa leaks non-stop no matter what. If I cannot find a solution to this allergy-like behavior which I feel is coming from the nasal pillows, then I am really stumped as to what to do next. I look sick all the time and this constant runny nose is very disturbing.
I love the Aura/Headrest and cannot use anything else because they just don't work. No matter what I try, they don't work. I just tried a Somnoplus and it didn't work for me, either. Activa leaks non-stop no matter what. If I cannot find a solution to this allergy-like behavior which I feel is coming from the nasal pillows, then I am really stumped as to what to do next. I look sick all the time and this constant runny nose is very disturbing.
L o R i
I have no idea if this is related. I tried using the Swift- the first night my nose rebelled so the second night I put osme KY on the bottom of my nose and nares and just inside the nares. I still couldn't handle the Swift so I went back to my Mirage nasal.
When I woke up I was fine. I took the mask off and within 10 minutes I went into a sneezing rage.
It was like my head opened up and clear fluid was draining - it was definitely an allergic reaction to something. It lasted almost all day.
The only variable I could see was the KY.
I haven't used the Swift or the KY since and haven't had the problem since.
Tom
When I woke up I was fine. I took the mask off and within 10 minutes I went into a sneezing rage.
It was like my head opened up and clear fluid was draining - it was definitely an allergic reaction to something. It lasted almost all day.
The only variable I could see was the KY.
I haven't used the Swift or the KY since and haven't had the problem since.
Tom
That's exactly what happened to me this morning, after my first night with Swift last night.roztom wrote: It was like my head opened up and clear fluid was draining - it was definitely an allergic reaction to something. It lasted almost all day.
The only variable I could see was the KY.
I haven't used the Swift or the KY since and haven't had the problem since.
I'm sure it's the Swift, not the KY Jelly that I applied, because on the day the DME guy came to "fit" me with the Swift, I had the same reaction, and there was no KY Jelly involved. In other words, it happens with, and without, the KY Jelly. There's no question in my mind that I'm never using the Swift again. This allergic reaction is worse than sleep apnea.
It will be nice (if it ever happens) to find a cure for the sleep apnea that is not worse than the disease.
Was your swift cleaned between uses? Did you say you used it once with the KY?
The first time I used the Swift, I didn't use KY and didn't have the reaction. The second time WAS with the KY-when I had the reaction.
I rinse out the Swift with Neutagena Fragrence Free and use Distilled water in a heated humidifier.
Regards,
Tom
The first time I used the Swift, I didn't use KY and didn't have the reaction. The second time WAS with the KY-when I had the reaction.
I rinse out the Swift with Neutagena Fragrence Free and use Distilled water in a heated humidifier.
Regards,
Tom
Hi Tom. The Swift I was "fit" with was sort of a travelling sample. The swift I used last night was my own, never used by anyone but me. Two different Swifts. Same reaction.roztom wrote:Was your swift cleaned between uses? Did you say you used it once with the KY?
With the trying on of the travelling sample the other day, there was no KY Jelly. Last night, there was. So it's not that there was actually KY Jelly both times, owing to residue from a previous occasion. First time, without. Second time, with. Same reaction.
If you're wondering why I even bothered using the Swift when I had an allergic reaction to just trying one on, it was because I couldn't be 100% sure after the try-on that my allergic reaction was caused by the Swift. It could have been a cold, or a million different things. (It didn't start till an hour or two later.) Now I'm sure.
That's really strange. I wonder if it's just the force of the air pressure in the nose?
I know, at least for me, the Nasal mask is more gentle than the directness of the Swift.
It's also strange that the sneezing doesn't start until after I stopped using it.
Stranger for me, I only had the Swift in for an hour and half with the KY and then switched to the Nasal mask for the rest of the night. The sneezing started the next morning after removing the nasal mask.
The SWift and the KY was the only variable and the previous night trying the Swift for 3 hours and then switching to the Nasal without using any KY there was no allergic reaction.
BTW, where in Chicago are you? I'm in Chicago also.
Tom
I know, at least for me, the Nasal mask is more gentle than the directness of the Swift.
It's also strange that the sneezing doesn't start until after I stopped using it.
Stranger for me, I only had the Swift in for an hour and half with the KY and then switched to the Nasal mask for the rest of the night. The sneezing started the next morning after removing the nasal mask.
The SWift and the KY was the only variable and the previous night trying the Swift for 3 hours and then switching to the Nasal without using any KY there was no allergic reaction.
BTW, where in Chicago are you? I'm in Chicago also.
Tom
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Tom,roztom wrote:That's really strange. I wonder if it's just the force of the air pressure in the nose?
I know, at least for me, the Nasal mask is more gentle than the directness of the Swift.
That is what the intent of my starting the thread was, feeling that the nasal pillows method of delivering the air like injectors, so to speak, was causing this to happen. So I guess we've now come full circle.
So do you agree or disagree that this could be what's causing all these leaky noses on our site?
L o R i
I guess it could be the Swift or Nasal Pillow system. It is strange that Nasal Pillows seem to be the most popular mask systems here.
I wonder if ti's just an adjustment issue? AN allergic reaction is pretty severe though. I know I'm not in any hurry to try the Swift again but I also hate to give up on what might be a better mask.
I'll probably wait until next weekend and then take another shot at it - without the KY
HAs anyone else had that kind of initial rewaction and gotten past it?
TNx,
Tom
I wonder if ti's just an adjustment issue? AN allergic reaction is pretty severe though. I know I'm not in any hurry to try the Swift again but I also hate to give up on what might be a better mask.
I'll probably wait until next weekend and then take another shot at it - without the KY
HAs anyone else had that kind of initial rewaction and gotten past it?
TNx,
Tom
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This is the second round of cpap therapy I've been on. The first time, I had none of these problems. Since going back on at the end of December after being off for two months, this seems to have come on and not gone away.
I have changed all filters, cleaned thoroughly the head gear, got a new hose for the machine and a new nasal pillow for the Aura. I use distilled water in the hh and don't know what could be wrong this time except that my sinuses are revolting against the therapy. I was going to use my Activa for a few weeks to see if I could make the distinction but it leaks too much to use and suffocates me in the middle of the night where I stuff up and can't breath at all. At least with the Aura I breathe great, but run all the next day.
I have changed all filters, cleaned thoroughly the head gear, got a new hose for the machine and a new nasal pillow for the Aura. I use distilled water in the hh and don't know what could be wrong this time except that my sinuses are revolting against the therapy. I was going to use my Activa for a few weeks to see if I could make the distinction but it leaks too much to use and suffocates me in the middle of the night where I stuff up and can't breath at all. At least with the Aura I breathe great, but run all the next day.
L o R i