Cleaning unreachable parts inside the machine

Eliminating too many harmless microbes from our environment
does not challenge our immune system, leaving us susceptible to more germs.
This has been PROVEN.

Full disclosure... these extreme cleaning threads are my guilty pleasure. It must be the way human nature plays out in such a vivid fashion. My opinion is that if it makes you feel good, then go ahead and clean to your heart's content, tho getting inside the machine's sanctum sanctorum is a bit drastic.

Hi guys just obtained a second hand machine with only 96 hours and paid $600 instead of the $2200 I was quoted for new one. Anyway my mum collected it and when it got to me it had tiny amount of water in chamber. When started it has a really musty smell. I obviously cleaned it and still there. I also have turned it on without chamber or hoses attached and the smell is still there coming straight from fan. Is it possible that with the unit being used but living in a humid climate that moisture has gotten into fan area etc and become mouldy.

Leew23 wrote:Hi guys just obtained a second hand machine with only 96 hours and paid $600 instead of the $2200 I was quoted for new one. Anyway my mum collected it and when it got to me it had tiny amount of water in chamber. When started it has a really musty smell. I obviously cleaned it and still there. I also have turned it on without chamber or hoses attached and the smell is still there coming straight from fan. Is it possible that with the unit being used but living in a humid climate that moisture has gotten into fan area etc and become mouldy.

Did you put in some brand new filter(s)...some machines have 2 and some have 1.
What brand/model machine did you get?

If you put in new filters and that didn't help you might try running just the blower for a few hours outside (like on a porch) and see if that helps.

Leew23 wrote:Hi guys just obtained a second hand machine with only 96 hours and paid $600 instead of the $2200 I was quoted for new one. Anyway my mum collected it and when it got to me it had tiny amount of water in chamber. When started it has a really musty smell. I obviously cleaned it and still there. I also have turned it on without chamber or hoses attached and the smell is still there coming straight from fan. Is it possible that with the unit being used but living in a humid climate that moisture has gotten into fan area etc and become mouldy.

if what pugsy suggested doesn't remove any last hints, then you need to supply more information.

nothing personal about you, just something that happens all the time, someone spends the effort to say mum paid 600$ instead of 2200, and this and that, but never bother to mention which of the many different brands and models cpap they're asking for help on.

different ones get opened differently.

Warning! Mold biological bacteria viruses are in every day typical inviroments microscopic to the eye period, and cannot be controlled by a fibrous filter. The crudely made filter being use is a dust filter. I have been getting really sick with upper respiratory infections. I always replace the filter and the hose along with new Mask. My medical provider has had the opportunity several times to clean look / replace it! I've told him I think it's not operating correctly. I don't think they ever do anything. "So let me tell you my story."I am an HVAC air quality control Technician.I provide the air quality to my customers homes. This time being off a week sick I said enough is enough!I got out my Tools and took apart my ResMed machine. I was shocked it has a DC motor encapsulated in an attempt to keep it watertight with an upper Center Fusion Peller and a lower centrifuge impeller. With a rubberized connector to the outdoor exhaust port. The air intake system filters is very crude can bypass and suck air from everywhere. Let me tell you something folks hot and cold makes humidity. My machines 5 years old I've had my technician supposedly look at to verify that it's good in the past. let me explain what's happens over a short length of time. You start of with a nice cool machine temp and the DC motor warms up inside of your machine cool passes thru the aluminum impeller housing.implellers are plastic has plastic Volute caps the plastic helps with not condensating. But the motor housing and all metal parts produce some condensation especially if the humidity around it is 80 - 90% here in East Texas as it is most of the time. A perfect environment for mold and bacteria. The inside veins of these impellers we're grossly dirty cover with growth and the waterproof case holding the DC motor was moldy. So whoever is posting out there it can't happen is delusional. That machine circulates millions of molecules of air through it. You have an indoor ambient temperature. And the inside of your machine has an ambient temperature as that temperature inside increases especially with high humidity and whatever the dew point is creates humidity, a feeding ground for bacteria. Their machine is of poor quality and poor design it should have a mini UV lights on its interior to kill the bacteria colonies that want to grow. You better think again when you read somebody's comments out here that says it's impossible. It's your health we're talking about. Yes the environment around the machine can project what's in that machine. But biological bacteria mold viruses are in the air. This devices can set the stage for a respiratory infections.So beware don't fall victim to these companies cronies and their comments

Pete Texas wrote:Warning! Mold biological bacteria viruses are in every day typical inviroments microscopic to the eye period, and cannot be controlled by a fibrous filter. The crudely made filter being use is a dust filter. I have been getting really sick with upper respiratory infections. I always replace the filter and the hose along with new Mask. My medical provider has had the opportunity several times to clean look / replace it! I've told him I think it's not operating correctly. I don't think they ever do anything. "So let me tell you my story."I am an HVAC air quality control Technician.I provide the air quality to my customers homes. This time being off a week sick I said enough is enough!I got out my Tools and took apart my ResMed machine. I was shocked it has a DC motor encapsulated in an attempt to keep it watertight with an upper Center Fusion Peller and a lower centrifuge impeller. With a rubberized connector to the outdoor exhaust port. The air intake system filters is very crude can bypass and suck air from everywhere. Let me tell you something folks hot and cold makes humidity. My machines 5 years old I've had my technician supposedly look at to verify that it's good in the past. let me explain what's happens over a short length of time. You start of with a nice cool machine temp and the DC motor warms up inside of your machine cool passes thru the aluminum impeller housing.implellers are plastic has plastic Volute caps the plastic helps with not condensating. But the motor housing and all metal parts produce some condensation especially if the humidity around it is 80 - 90% here in East Texas as it is most of the time. A perfect environment for mold and bacteria. The inside veins of these impellers we're grossly dirty cover with growth and the waterproof case holding the DC motor was moldy. So whoever is posting out there it can't happen is delusional. That machine circulates millions of molecules of air through it. You have an indoor ambient temperature. And the inside of your machine has an ambient temperature as that temperature inside increases especially with high humidity and whatever the dew point is creates humidity, a feeding ground for bacteria. Their machine is of poor quality and poor design it should have a mini UV lights on its interior to kill the bacteria colonies that want to grow. You better think again when you read somebody's comments out here that says it's impossible. It's your health we're talking about. Yes the environment around the machine can project what's in that machine. But biological bacteria mold viruses are in the air. This devices can set the stage for a respiratory infections.So beware don't fall victim to these companies cronies and their comments

Not a rousing endorsement for your company's services or your taking your own advice.

Reminds me of this thread/post:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3898&p=69862&hilit= ... ree#p69862

And, if you're breathing non-filtered air in or outside of your dwelling, you're inhaling more than what could possibly be getting through your machine. Maybe you need to clean your own house and install some home filtering system.......

Den

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Just another newbe, shouting into the wind about nothing that matters, maybe he takes his XPAP out in public and pays people to spit and slobber into it's intake with the filter removed, with it running. If so it needs cleaning! Jim

This is an interesting study...

http://www.aasmnet.org/jcsm/ViewAbstract.aspx?pid=29068

Pete Texas wrote:[ridiculous wall of text]

yeah, well, I've taken apart a number of resmed S9 machines, and so far, the only one that had anything of note on the the blower motor was one that had been used by a heavy smoker... and there was tar and nicotine staining on the blower.

nothing on the rest. so, maybe you're just using yours in a filthy environment.

Or clinically paranoid.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.

chunkyfrog wrote:Or clinically paranoid.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.

I still haven't figured out what that "watertight" business is talking about the fan... something with a half inch diameter hole on each end... "watertight".

perhaps this is just the result of posting without any understanding about what one is posting about.

I kind of suspected that.

Ok, So apparently this is some sort of holy grail, but I have a legit problem, and don't know how else to solve it.

I took my cpap machine camping, in a cabin with a wood burning stove. Slept pretty good actually (never did sleep much while camping). Well I get it home, and the output smells of smoke. (as do my clothes, sleeping bag, hair, etc.)

So I break out and fresh filter, a new hose, new mask, new humidifier tank (which I never put water in), and the output still stinks of smoke. So, I am not running it with fresh air, been about 6 hours now, and the output still smells of smoke.

So, if it not possible to clean past the repairable parts, is my machine garbage now? The smell is so strong, I know it's going to be distracting and prevent me from sleeping. I have terminal insomnia, so using the cpap is only one part of my challenge. I doubt gabapentin is going to help me ignore the stink.

All i've seen is the $300 Ozone machine solution, which apparently is considered snake oil by some. Thinking about putting some type of essential oil or some fragrance by the air intake, not sure if that's a smart move (does anyone do that?)

Any other solutions out there? My machine is a Resmed Airsense 10.

Thanks for checking this old thread.

Aromatherapy products like Pur-Sleep and Snugglesense are made for this purpose.
Cpap.com (forum sponsors) sell on their website.
Smoke/cigarette smell is discussed in other threads.
Use the search box.