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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Goofproof » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:27 pm

At least Rescan comes in 3 or 4th in software. Maybe we could get Respironics to lower the bar some. I'm sure they will try. Jim

Edited: Don't tell Rescan owners that their software isn't as good. One they won't believe you, and will have to defend it.
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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Slinky » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:35 pm

I have both EncorePro, including the MyEncore and EncoreAnalyzer freeware, and the AutoScan and ResScan software. I find both the Resmed AutoScan and ResScan software MUCH easier to use AND understand the data than the EncorePro. The ONLY thing EncorePro has over AutoScan and ResScan in my opinion is the Daily Events Per Hour table.

I can understand the AutoScan and ResScan graphs a hell of a lot easier than those dot-dot-dit things that EncorePro produces. I can stretch the ResScan graphs out to 10 second intervals or reduce them to a 24 hour interval. I can use Exel for an AutoScan csv file to know the EXACT time each hypopnea occured and the EXACT time and duration of each apnea.

To each their own.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by carbonman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:06 am

You may have a point.

Ditto everything Slinky said.

Would you rather have cool graphs or superior therapy???

Give me a Resmed anyday.
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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by PST » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:17 am

Double ditto. Good graphs help make sense of it all.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Velbor » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:45 am

Having used both data systems extensively, and admitting that Respironics' Encore has some nice features lacking in ResMed's ResScan, I have to conclude that Encore has a FATAL flaw: It does not present or display the duration of individual apnea events (and even its presentation of "total time in apnea" is grossly unreliable). Duration of apnea events is the direct tie-in to oxygen desaturation. Without that critical information, you're in the dark about therapy results. Despite other benefits Encore provides, which might otherwise give it an edge over ResScan (though really, without getting into technical stuff which is interesting but not directly useful, there's not all that much of an edge for most uses), its utter failure in the area of apnea duration makes it a far less useful system.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by ozij » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:26 am

Velbor wrote:Having used both data systems extensively, and admitting that Respironics' Encore has some nice features lacking in ResMed's ResScan, I have to conclude that Encore has a FATAL flaw: It does not present or display the duration of individual apnea events (and even its presentation of "total time in apnea" is grossly unreliable). Duration of apnea events is the direct tie-in to oxygen desaturation. Without that critical information, you're in the dark about therapy results. Despite other benefits Encore provides, which might otherwise give it an edge over ResScan (though really, without getting into technical stuff which is interesting but not directly useful, there's not all that much of an edge for most uses), its utter failure in the area of apnea duration makes it a far less useful system.
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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Slinky » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:59 am

I can understand SecretAgentGirl's longing for and preference for EncorePro's Daily Events Per Hour table. I love that feature too and sure do wish that ResScan provided similar - as well as what ResScan and before that, AutoScan, provides. But that Daily Events Per Hour table chart is the ONLY thing I like better about EncorePro.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Mr Capers » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:14 am

Hi Slinky,

Let me display my ignorance; where the heck is the Daily Events per Hour Table? All I ever look at are the daily detail graphs. Is it in the summary table on the last page of the report?

To my mind, a fatal flaw in Encore Pro is that all the information is "locked up" in the database. Analyzer doesn't work with my machine, and the only way to get information into a spreadsheet is to type in data from the detail reports. Not terrifically useful.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by dsm » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:54 pm

I'll weigh in with a 0.2c worth.

What I like about the Encore reports is that they are simply presented & for anyone not interested in delving into the data they cover all that is needed
in an easy formated manner (this stuff is complex enough as it is ).

But, the rescan data does allow for a very high level of time granularity of the recorded data (even ignoring the extra detail extracted from a reslink). Velbor explained this aspect very well.

But, as SecretAgentGirl has hilighted (or implied) the ResScan software can take some getting used to & thus can appear to be less than helpful compared to the simpler set of charts& data off Encore Pro.

Speaking for myself, I value the granularity that allows me to spread a 10 second event out across the screen so I can try to make more sense of the event.

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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by akcpapguy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:06 pm

DSM makes an interesting point, for those who don't care about looking at their apnea in a 10 second window Encore Pro's report are much more user friendly and basic in detail. For any user that doesn't use an SPO2 monitor looking at apnea's in a 10 second window is not much use anyway. IMO
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Re: ResScan owner jealous of Encore reports

Post by Slinky » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:46 pm

But "I" don't understand those dot, dot, dit, dash "graphs" or whatever you call those things EncorePro provides. Resmed's squiggly line graphs make more sense to me. But, yeah, that Daily Events Per Hour table chart from EncorePro, now THAT I understand and LOVE!

As I said, to each his own. Whatever floats your boat. If we don't understand the data as it is presented to us, its not doing us much good.

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